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REVIEW: Queen's Blade: The Exiled Virgin DVD 3


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MaxSouth



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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 10:28 am Reply with quote
Mad_Scientist: thanks for the answers. It seems that I missed Qwaser's preview, sorry.
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I find that U.S. voice actors tend not to get up for shows like this. I do often find sleazy and blatantly ecchi shows tend to be best watched in its original form, where Japanese VAs have no problems making non-so-subtle orgasmic line readings with relish ("Kyaaahhhh! Yaaaa! Yada yadaa!!"). Laughing

This is coming from someone who's otherwise very supportive of even the most mediocre of english dubs.


Except Queen's Blade isn't hentai. There's lot's of nudity and innuendo but no sex. I watched it dubbed and thought it was fairly decent. And I usually watch hentai subbed as well, for the same reason you stated. But I assure you, while it wasn't extremely awesome, QB's dub was better than most hentai dubs.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:45 pm Reply with quote
Mad_Scientist wrote:
On topic: Theron, if you reviewed both the first volumes again today, what story scores would they get? Vol 1 got a C+ and Vol 2 got a B- in your initial reviews. What prompted your reevaluation of the series' story merits, or lack thereof?


Upon further consideration, I decided that I had probably over-graded each of the previous two volumes by one step each. While they have positive merits that put them a little ahead of similar titles, I wasn't marking them down enough for deficiencies and perhaps giving them a little too much of a bump for their quality fan service. Thus, the first volume should have had a C and the second a C+.

In fact, I've generally started to agree with criticism that I tend to grade titles on the soft side, so you should see me being a little less generous with Story and Overall grades for the rest of the year.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 12:24 am Reply with quote
rinmackie wrote:
bravetailor wrote:
I find that U.S. voice actors tend not to get up for shows like this. I do often find sleazy and blatantly ecchi shows tend to be best watched in its original form, where Japanese VAs have no problems making non-so-subtle orgasmic line readings with relish ("Kyaaahhhh! Yaaaa! Yada yadaa!!"). Laughing

This is coming from someone who's otherwise very supportive of even the most mediocre of english dubs.


Except Queen's Blade isn't hentai. There's lot's of nudity and innuendo but no sex. I watched it dubbed and thought it was fairly decent. And I usually watch hentai subbed as well, for the same reason you stated. But I assure you, while it wasn't extremely awesome, QB's dub was better than most hentai dubs.


It's blatantly ecchi. VAs know when they're working on a classy show or a guilty pleasure show (to put it nicely). And as you said, it has lot of innuendo. When the girls fight each other and get hurt, they aren't meant to just scream "realistically", most scenes of girls yelling in QB have to have a subtle orgasmic element to it to add to the innuendo and I am quite sure they are directed as such as well.

QB certainly isn't the worst dub around. But you can tell they could have done better if they wanted to. But since they are pros, there is still an acceptable level of professionalism in QB. Anime dubs have come a pretty long way, a bad dub today would be considered decent 15 years ago.

But that still doesn't erase the fact that QB could have had a better dub given some of the people involved.

As for hentai dubs in general, I don't know of many hentai dubs in the past 8 or so years that still use veteran voice actors. Maybe in the mid 90s they did, but they haven't done that so much this past decade. The reason most hentai dubs are awful is because they use amateurs, or porn stars who are being a little too cute with their line readings (though in general it's still better to use porn stars to VA a hentai than amateurs)
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Well, it seems lately, we're lucky to get a dub. And the VA talent pool is a bit shallow these days. Also, I don't think Media Blasters is that big of a company. So, I consider the dub to be pretty decent, all things considered. I don't think they could have done much better.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:39 am Reply with quote
bravetailor wrote:
I find that U.S. voice actors tend not to get up for shows like this. I do often find sleazy and blatantly ecchi shows tend to be best watched in its original form, where Japanese VAs have no problems making non-so-subtle orgasmic line readings with relish ("Kyaaahhhh! Yaaaa! Yada yadaa!!"). Laughing

This is coming from someone who's otherwise very supportive of even the most mediocre of english dubs.


OUCH!! Well that's kinda harsh.



Well I watch only english dub as well ,even those medicore dubs as well ( excluding those that were created by horror that is 4kids ) , BUT Do you really think that US VA's are that picky when it comes to ecchi/harem series?

It definitely did not sounded like that when I watch negima , Girls Bravo and Tengo Tenge , where the fanservice were not as excessive as Queens Blade or Ikkitousen , but they definitely have ecchi type fanservice,and the VA were as professional and sounded like they were having fun with there series in my opinion. Especially when it came to the english cast for negima who sounded like they were having a bawl with the english script for the enire franchise.( according to those interviews in the extras)


Look. I know for a fact that some VA change their names for these types of series which might have some people suspicious on their performances, ( though I have no idea why do they do that for ) , but to say that they wont get up or give it 100% on purpose cause it's an ecchi series with at time some faux scenes, that's kinda overstreching it much.
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rinmackie wrote:
bravetailor wrote:
I find that U.S. voice actors tend not to get up for shows like this. I do often find sleazy and blatantly ecchi shows tend to be best watched in its original form, where Japanese VAs have no problems making non-so-subtle orgasmic line readings with relish ("Kyaaahhhh! Yaaaa! Yada yadaa!!"). Laughing

This is coming from someone who's otherwise very supportive of even the most mediocre of english dubs.


Except Queen's Blade isn't hentai. There's lot's of nudity and innuendo but no sex. I watched it dubbed and thought it was fairly decent. And I usually watch hentai subbed as well, for the same reason you stated. But I assure you, while it wasn't extremely awesome, QB's dub was better than most hentai dubs.


I thought the dub for this was pretty good overall, but I also agree about audio tracks for hentai. I watch practically all my anime dubbed, but I can't stand dubbed hentai because it's pretty obvious that they just showed up for a paycheck.



The visuals were quite nice for this show, which ought to be the case when the show's main draw is lots of practically naked women. A show like this doesn't stand much of a chance if the main draw isn't appealing.
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Look. I know for a fact that some VA change their names for these types of series which might have some people suspicious on their performances, ( though I have no idea why do they do that for ) , but to say that they wont get up or give it 100% on purpose cause it's an ecchi series with at time some faux scenes, that's kinda overstreching it much.


I know most of the VA's for QB were either new or fairly new VA's (haven't heard all of the dub myself. Got the BD in my possession but I need to finish up what I am watching now for the blog, then I will get to it after what I finish up next.)

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I thought the dub for this was pretty good overall, but I also agree about audio tracks for hentai. I watch practically all my anime dubbed, but I can't stand dubbed hentai because it's pretty obvious that they just showed up for a paycheck.


In a twist of fate I watch hentai dubbed mainly for the lolz (like Bible Black for example), that and I don't want to have to read subs and watch the ahem *action* on screen at the same time. Then again I rent them so I never have to see them again.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:36 am Reply with quote
asimpson2006 wrote:
jr0904 wrote:

Look. I know for a fact that some VA change their names for these types of series which might have some people suspicious on their performances, ( though I have no idea why do they do that for ) , but to say that they wont get up or give it 100% on purpose cause it's an ecchi series with at time some faux scenes, that's kinda overstreching it much.


I know most of the VA's for QB were either new or fairly new VA's (haven't heard all of the dub myself. Got the BD in my possession but I need to finish up what I am watching now for the blog, then I will get to it after what I finish up next.)


well from the info section it's 50/50 with newbies and Vetrans using different names (though i still dont know why) and to be frank , it kinda does not matter cause it's still a very good dub. Definitely looking forward to season 2.





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I thought the dub for this was pretty good overall, but I also agree about audio tracks for hentai. I watch practically all my anime dubbed, but I can't stand dubbed hentai because it's pretty obvious that they just showed up for a paycheck.


In a twist of fate I watch hentai dubbed mainly for the lolz (like Bible Black for example), that and I don't want to have to read subs and watch the ahem *action* on screen at the same time. Then again I rent them so I never have to see them again.


I would not say that. Sure they were god forsaken awful in the past , but they were some decent ones too. Though I definitely agree Bible Black was medicore , for some reasons it's OVA wasn't.

Also some good ones were the uncut versions of Kite and Mezzo Forte , Discipline , Frot Lady Innoncect ( who was also created by QB's ARMS ) and Viper GTS.

And their are getting preety decent now an days thanks to MB's 18+ site Kitty Media. Sure their not perfect , but like with the non 18+ series , their evolving and getting better , and to be frank, their ten times better than those annoying real ones.

However I'm preety greatful QB is not in this catagory.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 9:45 am Reply with quote
jr0904 wrote:

I would not say that. Sure they were god forsaken awful in the past , but they were some decent ones too. Though I definitely agree Bible Black was medicore , for some reasons it's OVA wasn't.

Also some good ones were the uncut versions of Kite and Mezzo Forte , Discipline , Frot Lady Innoncect ( who was also created by QB's ARMS ) and Viper GTS.

And their are getting preety decent now an days thanks to MB's 18+ site Kitty Media. Sure their not perfect , but like with the non 18+ series , their evolving and getting better , and to be frank, their ten times better than those annoying real ones.

However I'm preety greatful QB is not in this catagory.


Well most of the ones I have seen I would give them C- or D rating, but then again it not like hentai is mainstream in the US to being with.
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Queen's Blade licensing always gives me hope that Qwaser of Stigmata will be licensed one day. Though I do agree with the comment of American VAs not being on board with this kind of stuff.. especially Qwaser where girls must moan and beg as they get their breasts sucked on and pretty much sexed up.. though it'd be fun to see a dub; by Funi no less... with dubbed theme songs! Though I don't think anyone could match Aya Hirano as Katja.. America doesn't seem to handle loli characters very well in terms of dubbing 'especially if they're supposed to sound sexy and alluring. Good for Queens Blade for getting a good dub, though
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TitanXL wrote:
Queen's Blade licensing always gives me hope that Qwaser of Stigmata will be licensed one day. Though I do agree with the comment of American VAs not being on board with this kind of stuff.. especially Qwaser where girls must moan and beg as they get their breasts sucked on and pretty much sexed up.. though it'd be fun to see a dub; by Funi no less... with dubbed theme songs! Though I don't think anyone could match Aya Hirano as Katja.. America doesn't seem to handle loli characters very well in terms of dubbing 'especially if they're supposed to sound sexy and alluring. Good for Queens Blade for getting a good dub, though


Well I do not know what this series is , but if this series is anything like Queens Blade or Strike Witches , I'm definitely in. Though you are right when it comes to the US not handling loli characters , especially since their avoiding Kodomo no Jikan like if it's a disease or something. Kinda stupid that they have no problems licensing series like Ikkitousen , Queens Blade and Strike Witches , but become all chichken @$$ when it comes to questionable series like Kodomo no Jikan.
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I'm watching Queen's Blade through Netflix streaming which means I'm stuck watching it dubbed. I'd be fine with this if it weren't for Nanael. Her voice is grating and I'll probably be stuck listening to her every episode now that she is travelling with Reina. The next episode previews were at least skippable. It's too bad, as I really like her design. I'm disappointed I couldn't get her Megahouse figure before it sold out. Other designs I really like are Echidna, Menace, Risty, Alleyne and Annerotte. Does Annerotte appear in season 2? Reina didn't annoy me as much as I thought she would. This is probably due to the fact that she tends to quietly angst about her incompetence instead of being melodramatic about it and also her VA. The sub however isn't going to help Elina in the slightest. She'd be annoying in any language no matter the caliber of her VA. Seriously, she needs to die.

I don't understand how people can praise the animation though. To quote Mike Dent from the first DVD review:
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However, I don't agree that it's well-animated. It's not ANIMATED enough to be well-animated. Lots of slow pans and stills with flapping mouths and simple walk cycles, and when the framerate jumps, it's usually accompanied by a minimum of detail, so as to minimize retracing of complex objects.

To busy keeping the character designs on model, which are great BTW. The background art is also gorgeous. The story is far to cliche ridden to be anything great but serves the show well enough.

Does anyone know where I can get clean screenshots of the pictures used in the first ending? The pictures are awesome and would make for great wallpaper. Who's the artist?
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