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Shenl742
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I dunno, I think the world needs more friendly people. God knows the internet needs more of them. |
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Charred Knight
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I know that anime fans are not exactly sociable but the idea that people are praising other people for being jerks tells me that anime fans seem to have retreated from the real world entirely. No acting like arrogant jerks is not awesome, it's never going to be awesome and if you act like that outside of your room than you're going to find out that people don't take kindly to that attitude. |
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bleuster
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These guys aren't as offensive as just plain obnoxious.
I see why they're doing what they're doing, but doing it without class or in a way that holds a mirror to the what they're against, it just adds to a cesspool that I do not care to read or listen to. Sorry, but I left nerds like these behind in high school. I'm more into the belief you can hate something, yet, tolerate it without letting it fester like a tumor on the back of your brain. Move on, be strong. They made solid points, but how they go about it is just poor. |
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superdeformed
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God bless these forums.
Half these commenters must curl up into a ball and cry hysterically when they come across actual rude and/or racist people. I guess growing up in the south has given me a decent amount of tolerance. |
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Shenl742
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Well color me jealous for not being as tolerable to jackassery as you are. |
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Zach
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More like stepping outside of the house every once in a while amirite? And yes, Fatal Fury The Motion Picture is Obari's finest moment. His stock mech animation for various shows like Tekkaman Blade and Dancougar are amazing, and Bubblegum Crisis episodes 5 and 6 are faves, but Fatal Fury was the moment that everything that is Obari was crystalized into a single whole before being sucked into the vortex of porn madness. |
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TokyoGetter
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Yeah, when I think "tolerance..." |
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superdeformed
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Don't be jealous, you might offend yourself. |
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Shenl742
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But will you feel offended if I'm not really jealous? |
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nightjuan
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Colony Drop is certainly an interesting site and I actually find some of their more insightful articles to be honestly worthwhile. Whatever else I might say, they have been able to successfully combine juvenile mockery and serious criticism of the anime industry and its fandom in a fairly entertaining manner.
As someone who has been an anime fan for a relatively long time myself, I'd say a number of their interests overlap with mine...well, at least up to the point where they just don't. Mostly because I continue to appreciate a lot of old stuff but, for better or for worse, age has made me less militant and more open-minded about how to judge cartoons and attempt to understand the production process behind them in ways that aren't always limited to strictly orthodox standards of quality. Doesn't mean I can't recognize greatness or won't apply any serious critical criteria for reviews...but I'll gladly watch a significantly inferior series if there is something reasonably interesting about it. Therefore, it's no surprise that I'm not a huge fan of trolling and hate-filled rants. While I do find it amusing on a gut level, as a momentary distraction, I get tired of it a little too quickly. Mainly because I'm a fan of having an actual debate and trolling instantly reduces or destroys the potential for a free and respectful exchange of ideas. Which is why I'll give the staff credit for somehow managing to have consistently good writing, period, regardless of whether they agree or disagree with my opinions and in spite of not being too fond of their attitude at its worst.
For whatever it's worth, I'd certainly beg to differ. I'll keep this short though. 
All three of those shows have been discussed at length on these very forums and elsewhere, including detailed debates where numerous arguments have been exchanged. I don't intend to revive any of those here, but let's not beat around the bush: I'd say that's simply your opinion and certainly not an undisputable fact. We will always have our distinct interpretations, but when not even the basic facts are being described accurately something's definitely wrong here. Your generalizations are rather sloppy and ignore too many nuances others have brought up before. In particular, I find the suggestion that only Gundam SEED Destiny had "interesting ideas" and none of the other two shows did to be very subjective at best and extremely disingenuous at worst. Just because you didn't find anything at all that was similarly interesting in Gundam 00 S2, for instance, doesn't mean nobody else did. Not everyone has the same interests, let alone the same pet-peeves. |
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Charred Knight
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Never claimed that it was anything other than my opinion, I simply stated that I though Gundam Seed Destiny was better than Gundam 00 Season 2, and Code Geass R2. I know a lot of people that I respect that like Gundam 00 Season 2, just because your opinion differs from someone doesn't mean that you have to disrespect them. Saying that your opinion is better than anyone else is the very height of arrogance. As for not going in-depth I have done that enough here and at other forums, so I didn't feel the need to go into a rant about everything I felt wrong about Gundam 00 season 2 or Code Geass R2. |
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nightjuan
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I also believe subjective opinions usually can't be wrong, almost by definition, but their supporting statements and arguments can certainly have a greater or lesser degree of factual accuracy. What I said goes no further than this and thus both of our opinions can be considered, on principle, to be equally respectable. The devil, however, is in the details. So that's fair enough, I'll admit it, but I believe there was a need for an expression of dissent and/or disagreement, particularly when we're talking about three series that tend to polarize people so much. Which, in an ironic manner, is usually a sure sign of their flawed nature, since generating controversy is only rarely seen as a real virtue in and of itself (and this refers to my previous post on Colony Drop too, by the way, since the main reason I like the site isn't the "wow, we're going to be controversial!" factor but the surprisingly good writing).
It's less about depth, since I'm on that same page about avoiding as much redundancy as possible, but more about whether or not the details match up to the facts even in their summarized form. |
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GWOtaku
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There are very good articles on Colony Drop, make no mistake. It takes willful blindness to deny it. Their fandom critiques as expressed in the first half of this podcast, however, range from super obvious preaching to the choir to the downright dull. I learned that a lot of nerds can be obsessive and silly and that there are quite a few small-time blogs on the internet. Who knew? So much axe-grinding about small-time stuff that honestly doesn't matter very much. On most ANNCast episodes I come away feeling that I heard something insightful, but not this time.
Things did improve during twitter time though. I'm in Zac's camp on Gundam Unicorn, which I'm sure shocks nobody...execution goes a long way and to me (& as Zac asserted) it's an ideal introduction & reintroduction holds onto the best elements of what made Gundam interesting in the first place. Also, while I respect Tomino's work, I find the characters and characterization more engaging here. The protagonist Banagher is a leading example; he's rather atypical as Gundam pilots go and particularly mature compared to Amuro (in first Gundam), Kira from Seed, and the teen pilots of the 80s. Yeah, one can focus on the superficial Federation vs. Zeon parallels and such...but I think that's an exercise in missing the point. One quip: it really doesn't work to say SOS isn't about judging anybody only to say a few minutes later that it exists to invoke laughs. This is a contradiction. Combined with the we-are-here-do-amuse-ourselves-and-owe-nobody-good-discourse sentiment, the transparent point seems to be "LOL, anime fans, so glad I'm not an idiot like that guy!". Might as well own up to that. It's useful for anybody that wants to nurse a worthless superiority complex, I suppose. I find it irrelevant and a waste of time and completely opposite the idea of what the main Colony Drop site is said to be...showing people how it's done by making a website that's actually worth something. But hey, good luck at not sucking in the future. I found the recent Dancougar post both amusing and interesting. Y'know, I was skeptical of Modoka Magica. But with Nihon Review and Colony Drop and Brian Ruh all approving, I'm interested to try it. Hopefully it's licensed and streamed by someone before too long. |
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Nayu
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Important answer:
Favorite movie: Strange Brew As directed by Anno I like these hosers. |
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dizzon
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I've heard of Colony Drop but never actually visited the site. I don't usually pay any attention to blogs of any sort, but this one I think I'll check out.
I would like to see a remake of Tommy Boy as directed by Mamoru Oshii. |
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