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Cptn_Taylor
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I don't think the film will go straight to blu-ray though. It will have a theatrical distribution small it may be. Even if it has some amount of nudity in it, let's be clear about the nature of it. We're not talking "sexual" nudity. If watching a nude baby gets you all sexually aroused you have a much bigger problem on your hands dare I say. |
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mrsatan
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I really don't like it when people do this, when they (publicly) fret about someone possibly taking offense to something that hasn't happened yet. It can lead to self-fulfilling prophecy.
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mgosdin
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You know every time I see this issue crop up my eyes cross. I guess my family wasn't typical American as we never had any trouble regarding "casual family nudity". You just didn't argue with your grandmother when she bundled all the kids - mail & female alike - into the bathtub and said, "Get clean, I've got to finish cooking lunch." All you said was, "Yes Ma'm!" 
Seriously, this movie needs to be shown as is. It's fundamental Japanese and a big part of their culture. I think we will survive just fine. Mark Gosdin |
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Ojamajo LimePie
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Totoro had a bath scene with nonsexual nudity, and it was rated G. I wouldn't be too worried.
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sekireinumber88
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Wolf Children, Mamoru Hosoda's latest film, shows visible breasts in nursing, partially nude babies while bathing, and some other "controversial" things. My copy of the movie has a G-rating on it, and I think the same route can be taken with the Ghibli film. Americans at least are becoming less concerned with censoring minute cultural details like this, and as someone said, anime-film goers will be the most open minded.
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icomeanon6
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I don't think you have a great grasp of American standards of appropriateness. I can't speak for everyone, but my parents--who by European standards are certainly American prudes--do not think that gratuitous violence, dismemberment, or rape are okay and have no problem with non-pornographic nudity. They're not at all uncomfortable with breast feeding, and in fact one of their favorite movies The Secret of Roan Inish contains some good old-fashioned toddler penis. Perhaps among the more strict evangelical protestants you'll find a check-list like attitude toward appropriateness (guns are fine, nipples are not fine), but typical Americans I find care much more about context. It's not a matter of whether nipples appear on screen; it's a matter of whether they're on screen for the sole purpose of arousal/are exploiting women as objects, etc. Perhaps if I'd spent more time in other parts of the country I'd be more inclined to agree with you, but that's what I've observed. In any case, American standards of appropriateness are much more diverse and less knee-jerk than you acknowledge. It's a big place, and some states might was well be in different countries culturally (see California and Texas). I see Kaguya getting a limited release due to it being too visually different and therefore hard to market, and it will be unedited PG probably, so some younger children will undoubtedly still see it with little hubbub. Don't forget also that this is some Japanese journalist raising the issue; not anyone at Ghibli or Disney. |
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yuetheguardian
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This...... also does anyone remember from up on poppyhill, i would call some of the subject matters in that far worse content wise....... Edit: removed some stuff i forgot to remove |
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ScruffyKiwi
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I have to agree with Zac here, this is a non story! If it is some breast exposure related to feeding, well western society has got alot more tolerant about this. Breast feeding is actively encouraged now and there is NOTHING sexual about seeing a baby feeding. ZERO, ZILCH. |
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Shiroi Hane
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On Saturday I watched Wolf Children, rated PG by the BBFC, in a cinema with both adults and children.
It has scenes of nursing that show visible breasts, scenes that include fully naked babies and children, and one scene of two adults in bed clearly about to engage in sex. I can't see Kaguya-hime faring any worse at the hands of the BBFC, not that I've seen it myself. |
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TheKillerTaco
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The nudity in the film is not that bad and how about Totoro it got a bad scene and it was rated G
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Yuki_Kun45
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Well as usual the high ground posters with "oh you Americans and your prudish ways!" Even though the Journalist proposing this is Japanese writing this proposal for a Japanese magazine and has cited concerns for not just America but other places like Islamic countries. Now I'm not saying I agree with the journalist at all but really stop jumping and saying this is the hyperactive moral police of America at it again.
I say let the film run uncut, I don't see this as a bring the whole family event like say Ponyo was it seems like Disney (or whomever picks this up) will run it in select theaters anyway and quickly put it to DVD/BluRay. Uncut I really can't see it getting more than a PG-13 at worst, though I haven't seen it. R is so incredibly unlikely because it's Takahata/Ghibli not exactly going to be hardcore here. Wolf Children has a PG with breastfeeding, some light nudity which is nonsexual anyway and some violent images so I imagine this could pass with a PG just as easily, because this isn't Ikki Tousen or Elfen Lied or anything. Yeah maybe some people will complain, it's the world of instant access and 24/7 news stations we live in now. |
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EleutheroMaster
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Bad idea!
I love all of Studio Ghibli films! Editing this film would be an insult to Mr. Miyazaki's legacy! I say, "release it AS IS!" 
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EastN3
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Normally I would agree, except, movies like these are already given very limited releases here, and Ghibli movies are known well enough to maybe get some slack. It can't hurt that Disney holds a lot of sway in the industry.
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yotsubafanfan
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They had no problems with Totoro ( family bath scene), Grave of the Fireflies (Bath scene), Summer Wars (Bath scene AND nursing scene), Pom Poko (Raccoon's with huge Balls, no other info needed.) and countless others I haven't seen yet. So I shouldn't see any trouble with it. And if there is then shall we play the "Night on Bald Mountain" scene from the movie "Fantasia?" Yeah, re-watch it, its got topless girls in it.
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walw6pK4Alo
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Did any of those films get a wide release like Ponyo or Arrietty? If it goes straight to home video, no one cares, this is all about what it does on movie screens.
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