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NEWS: Konami Confirms Silent Hills Cancellation


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the-antihero



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:51 pm Reply with quote
WANNFH wrote:
the-antihero wrote:
Guillermo del Toro, the guy who made Pacific Rim? Now I'm glad it's canceled.

Guillermo del Toro, the guy who made The Devil's Backbone and Pan's Labyrinth. Because it's strange to call his action-blockbuster (and what's wrong with Pacific Rim?), when he has directed at least two movies which can be associated with Silent Hill style.


Haven't seen the aforementioned movies except PR. And What I find wrong with it is that the movie has nothing to offer plot-wise. I'm not asking for a grand story because I know it's a popcorn movie, but that doesn't excuse all of its failings such as a badly written as well as (ungodly) forced romantic subplot, cliched characters and symbolism, and crappy robot designs (amazing compared to Bayformers but that's not saying much).

Moreover, the cinematography was a mess almost compared to Michael Bay's where so much debris is falling, the camera keeps moving, and it didn't help that rain was added to the mix. When anyone does cinematography like that, it doesn't give off the impression that they are professional filmmakers as much as appearing to be somehow divorced from any form of professionalism.
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leafy sea dragon



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:54 pm Reply with quote
Somer-_- wrote:
^Probably doesn't work like that. Konami owns Metal Gear Solid.


Yeah, I know. I just mean that Kojima is still a well-respected person even if he's on bad terms with Konami.

That's how it tends to be with eccentric artists and the companies they work for though.
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Zumie



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 2:56 pm Reply with quote
I think that Konami are fools to cancel Silent Hills, especially after how much good feedback and hype they got back from it- Are they like morons?? And I was sure to tell them that on twitter- well I didn't call them morons- I just said they were screwing over their fans.

I encourage everyone else to also tweet Konami and tell them what you think of them canceling Silent Hills, who knows it might be enough to make them reconsider their actions and change their mind.
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Polycell



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:02 pm Reply with quote
@Somer-_-:

Universal Studios owning the rights to Oswald the Lucky Rabbit didn't stop Walt Disney from taking his ball and going home; if Kojima ended up too demoralized to take that step, I'm not so sure it would come from not being able to make more Metal Gear games.
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MorwenLaicoriel



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 3:24 pm Reply with quote
Polycell wrote:
@Somer-_-:

Universal Studios owning the rights to Oswald the Lucky Rabbit didn't stop Walt Disney from taking his ball and going home; if Kojima ended up too demoralized to take that step, I'm not so sure it would come from not being able to make more Metal Gear games.

Kojima doesn't WANT to make more Metal Gear games. He said as much. He's said that before in the past about other games, too, but there's a lot of speculation online that he might've put his foot down this time, and Konami refused to renew his contract unless he made more MGS.

Whether or not it's true, Konami is really, really screwing up here, particularly since their PR is doing hardly anything to stop how much speculation is going around. I'm upset that Silent Hills is canceled, particularly after experiencing PT (seriously, anyone that has a PS4 or plans to buy one later needs to get on the PSN store and add it to their library before it's pulled, it takes what's worked from the recent indie revival of horror and refined it to perfection--the sound design alone is worth experiencing) although if it was that or Konami trying to take what Kojima and Del Toro had started on and trying to do it without them, I'd much rather it's canceled. I don't trust Konami be able to salvage the series at this point, IMO Kojima was their last chance.

Also re: Pacific Rim--if you're judging Del Toro purely on PR, which is actively trying to be a Big Stupid Blockbuster, and haven't seen at LEAST Pan's Labyrinth, you have no idea what Del Toro could've brought to the table in Silent Hills. Del Toro not only really understands horror, he understands a very psychological sort of horror based on more than just gore and jump scares--Pan's Labyrinth is mythic, skin-crawlingly creepy, and horrific most of all because of how it examines HUMAN monstrosity, which is a perfect fit for SH as a series. To top it off, the plot and characters were very, very solid, particularly Ophelia, the protagonist.

Seriously, at the very least, check out this clip. Del Toro can be slow, creepy and methodical. He's not all action set-pieces and Godzilla homages. I honestly don't think there's a better collaborator out there that Kojima could've picked.
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Southkaio



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 5:03 pm Reply with quote
the-antihero wrote:
Guillermo del Toro, the guy who made Pacific Rim? Now I'm glad it's canceled.


I am not satisfied. I really hope that Konami will begin using Los Angeles-based celebrities, actors and comedians in English-language versions of its video games.

What do you think?
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ikillchicken



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:09 pm Reply with quote
In a weird way I'm kinda glad they at least just stepped up and cancelled it outright. Better than letting it go all Last Guardian. Still though, screw Konami. They're the worst.
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Polycell



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 7:49 pm Reply with quote
MorwenLaicoriel wrote:
Kojima doesn't WANT to make more Metal Gear games. He said as much. He's said that before in the past about other games, too, but there's a lot of speculation online that he might've put his foot down this time, and Konami refused to renew his contract unless he made more MGS.
I've heard about all the times that Kojima's talked about not wanting to make another MGS, so I was making a point that it(hopefully) wasn't what was tying him to the game industry. I forgot the possibility it could be the only reason he doesn't retire, but if he does want to continue to create, a split with Konami might well be the best thing for him; it seems like Metal Gear's basically become his Oz at this point and having a brick wall of copyright between him and it would give him far more flexibility.
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Ambimunch



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 8:53 pm Reply with quote
Well this blows....sigh. I hope the PT demo remains playable at least....
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Dameonstarflame



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 27, 2015 10:27 pm Reply with quote
Ambimunch wrote:
Well this blows....sigh. I hope the PT demo remains playable at least....


As of Wednesday (April 29th) it will not be downloadable anymore, but I believe it will still be playable as long as you've downloaded it. Move fast!
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kirac91



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 2:46 am Reply with quote
Dameonstarflame wrote:
Not surprised. The moment Kojima and Konami were fighting, I knew this game would be a victim. It's sad that Konami is such a petty child-like company. Speak ill of them? Boom! Blacklisted from receiving anything for reviewing. Choose to leave the company to do new things? Boom! There goes all your credits from the games you worked so hard on AND kiss goodbye any projects you had in development. Konami are a bunch of children sitting in the corner hugging the best toy in the kindergarten. It's sad. They're signing their own death warrant at this rate.


lets not not forget Konami also still makes slot machines for casinos lol it's hard too tell who's richer konami or Kojima
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Toonami4Eva



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 28, 2015 11:06 am Reply with quote
dammit =/
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