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walw6pK4Alo



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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 9:45 pm Reply with quote
I would imagine a free option would only come when they have so much material that they can have entire chapters up as samples, but that's gonna be too little too quick for someone who can read an equivalent of a tank in an hour. And it's going to take them years to get all of those back issues of the various Wani monthly publications up, never mind the new ones out every month.
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Polycell



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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 9:46 pm Reply with quote
At first he sounded like they were aiming for select chapters of the magazines simulpublished, but later he made it sound like they were going for the full issue. Either way, I hope it's a habit that can take off in the all-ages market; there are some of those manga magazines I'd love to read if I could.

@Top Gun:

Ad revenue typically doesn't add up to much(especially at the rates porn sites get), so if they can get any meaningful percentage of their userbase whatsoever signed up, they'll probably be much better off.
katscradle wrote:
I’m glad to hear FAKKU is going to go fully legit. I very much dislike scanlations if for besides other arguments out of respect. It’s why I did not initially want to purchase their licensed titles if they were still hosting pirated material. However, I did think more on it and ended up making a purchase despite the illegal component still being around. Wani have picked a bed to be in so to speak. So I suppose in a situation like this where a company is transitioning and trying new things it is better to prove I do want something legally in English and open my wallet than no sale at all.
I personally don't have a problem with transitionary issues, just so long as it's not pay-to-pirate. I know SubDesu-H decided to move to that model under the excuse they were going to use the funds to seek legitimate licensing deals, but I doubt that's anything but a greedy lie.

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All that said, I can only see their digital demand growing as Fakku becomes more accepted and their library grows. Between the immediacy, secrecy and ease of reading one handed that digital has, I don't see the paper market as all that large for hentai.
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walw6pK4Alo



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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 9:57 pm Reply with quote
Polycell wrote:
I know SubDesu-H decided to move to that model under the excuse they were going to use the funds to seek legitimate licensing deals, but I doubt that's anything but a greedy lie.


Of course it's a lie. They're still going to use LQ DVDrips, subtitle it in their broken English, and pretend it's all on the level when instead it's just trying to weasel money out of dimwits, and yet it will work because there are so many dimwits. Even if they or EroBeat managed to become legit, unless they push for uncensored material than nothing's really changed.
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revolutionotaku



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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 9:59 pm Reply with quote
I'm proud of Jacob standing with the CBLDF.
There's also scientific proof to help them.
http://cbldf.org/2012/07/danish-report-discredits-link-between-cartoons-and-child-sex-abuse/
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jr240483



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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 10:39 pm Reply with quote
H. Guderian wrote:
I will always brag I knew that guy in high school. You never know where people are gonna end up a decade later. Many folks I knew were a mixture of surprise and angry. I salute the King of Hentai, and defend them going Legit. Become Emperor.


unfortunately which is dead in the water by doing this. for one thing, japan hentai companies like Lilith /Pixy , PoRO and others are unfortunately dead set against having their products licensed in the US cause unlike over there , we dont have any censorships laws so as a result, a majority of the fans will just skip getting the DVDs and just import the US versions and alongs as that fear exists, they will never release them in the US. the other is that if they start trying to post fanart doujins of popular series which is what their well known of in the otaku community, ya better believe that copyright lawsuits will be flooding out of the woodworks from the license holders,committees and authors. though since artists like Gambler Club and Behind Moon are still around,its possible that wont happen.


though i have to give him some props though. he's got some serious balls stating that their will be releasing "loli" type content. maybe he might convince the license holders of kodomo no jikan, choisuji and boku no pico to give the western license rights to them since every non-hentai company have avoided kodomo no jikan of its loli fanservice and US hentai companies like Kitty Media and others have avoided loli content like choisuji and boku no pico like the plague.
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enurtsol



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PostPosted: Thu May 21, 2015 11:17 pm Reply with quote
Cool beans. We've always chatted with the FAKKU folks at the comic con; they've been there since it was called the NY anime festival. Intriguingly, FAKKU.net was known for a no-loli policy.
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taster of pork



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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 1:27 am Reply with quote
I can't help but think that the site will slowly go down hill since, like Zack mentioned, people don't like to pay for porn. And hopefully publishing loli material won't get them into trouble. Looking forward to seeing what they release in the future.
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jr240483



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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 2:03 am Reply with quote
enurtsol wrote:
Cool beans. We've always chatted with the FAKKU folks at the comic con; they've been there since it was called the NY anime festival. Intriguingly, FAKKU.net was known for a no-loli policy.


actually back then they did do and translated some loli doujins back in its illegitimate days and i know since i was a regular fakku downloader and fourm poster. sure not a lot but there was,but only doujins aimed towards "certain" series.
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Akui128



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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 5:33 am Reply with quote
I don't want them to publish loli because I really don't think that stuff should be allowed. It is illegal here in the UK and people who buy any of their stuff could get in trouble or the it could get the site blocked in that country.
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 7:39 am Reply with quote
Akui128 wrote:
I don't want them to publish loli because I really don't think that stuff should be allowed. It is illegal here in the UK and people who buy any of their stuff could get in trouble or the it could get the site blocked in that country.


Couldn't they just block that sort of content in the region, since it's illegal?
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 9:08 am Reply with quote
Never thought I'd feel a moral imperative not to listen to an ANNcast episode but here I am.
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Xristophoros



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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 5:30 pm Reply with quote
i am furthest away from the target demographic but i listened to this podcast mainly out of curiosity in how zac would conduct himself (being such an awkward topic and all). it was a fascinating interview indeed. as for the content itself, i couldn't care less what happens to this nasty little sub-industry. hentai is trash and doesn't need to exist. it paints the anime/manga industry as a whole in a very negative light due to it being so closely associated with anime proper. imagine all the people who are too ashamed or self concious to even give anime/manga a try due to all the damaging stereotypes that stem from the hentai market?
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casualfan



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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 6:50 pm Reply with quote
It's totally stupid to group anime, manga, hentai as the same thing. It's equivalent to somebody grouping live-action movies and series with live-action porn. Anime is just animation. At the end of the day it's just a medium. Well the West is categorizing it as some kind of genre but still it's just a medium and all kinds of products will be created using it. Besides who cares if people stay away from anime/manga because they thought they're all the same. That's their own fault. It's stupid to blame hentai for people's own ignorance.

As for Fakku going legitimate, as long as the price is reasonable like Funi or Crunchy I'm all for it. Not going to be collecting the physical format though as porn isn't exactly the kind of stuff to be displayed on the bookshelves.
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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 7:01 pm Reply with quote
It's going to be real ironic if this US-based porn site manages to keep up with a monthly simul-publishing of two hentai anthologies, while Kadokawa's own English-language Comic Walker site is all but abandoned.
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Weltall



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PostPosted: Fri May 22, 2015 7:36 pm Reply with quote
It's gonna suck for the people casual enough (large english hentai site = thousands of 'em) to not find themselves a valid free alternative, and that includes anime fans since they lost their derivative doujin. There's months when I feel magazines like Kairakuten and X-Eros are hardly worth a download, much less a purchase (the same goes for tanks) and I'm not even speaking as a hardcore fan, I'm way more of a sex-positive ( Rolling Eyes ) reader, I'm hardcore only in how much I know about this and that.
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