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NEWS: Muv-Luv Visual Novels to Be Localized in English With Kickstarter


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Student no.0



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 9:45 pm Reply with quote
Man, I haven't played jack of Muv-Luv, but as much as I was interested in doing so I easily abandoned any hope of it ever being officially brought over here officially. This is seriously great news! Now if Angel Beats! gets picked up, I think I can rest in peace from there on.
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Samo2222





PostPosted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:33 pm Reply with quote
Definitely backing if there's a physical version. Alternative is an absolute masterpiece.
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Hameyadea



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 2:42 am Reply with quote
#840423 wrote:
Steam doesnt allow sex content... so they doing the PS3/All Age versions?


Maybe they'll work on both versions - with the All-Age for Steam, and the 18+ for an Independence outlet.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:23 am Reply with quote
Lynx Amali wrote:
invalidname wrote:

Also, the @muvluvseries twitter account already addressed the issue of those who've played the fan translation. In response to a tweet saying "Man, the fan translation of Muvluv came out four years ago. I'm all for official releases but they'd better have something more planned," they wrote "We definitely do Smile"


Kinda hoping that means they're considering bringing over the console editions or doing physical releases even if it's an on-demand thing. I'd totally buy one of each because I'd really like a set to lend out to friends. I already have the Japanese PC re-releases and the PS3 editions but those are in complete Japanese.
I almost guarantee they're implying the windows 7 release among possibly other things. But releasing Win7 alone is pretty big there's enough changes for fans to care, i have personally read the translated version and win7 with one window on top of another and there's definitely enough changes as well as extra's to make fans happy there's even some extra dialogue in Alternative. They could also be implying Windows 7 all ages with the gore cg's added or all ages plus 18+.

It seems like they're probably familiar with the fanbase and have probably done enough research to know we would be displeased if all ages didn't include gore or if we didn't get the 18+ version.

And personally i think Kouki knows how niche and unknown Muv-Luv should be everywhere and is in the u.s this could mean Degica knowing this as well will bring this up to the four showing up during anime-expo. What this means is the possibilities should be endless. So maybe Schwarzesmarken light novel or art books and lore not available to us to keep us fans interested while we wait for more.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:34 am Reply with quote
Hameyadea wrote:
#840423 wrote:
Steam doesnt allow sex content... so they doing the PS3/All Age versions?

Maybe they'll work on both versions - with the All-Age for Steam, and the 18+ for an Independence outlet.

The way MangaGamer has been handling this is to put an all-ages release on Steam, and then look the other way - and to publicly point out they're looking the other way - when a patch gets released on the internet to re-porn the game. Maybe Degica will do the same.

Speaking of which, do we know anything about Degica? I had not heard of them before yesterday. Would be nice to have some reasonable way to estimate the likelihood of them actually getting the release done, given how infamous some video game and visual novel Kickstarters have been.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 7:03 am Reply with quote
invalidname wrote:

Speaking of which, do we know anything about Degica? I had not heard of them before yesterday. Would be nice to have some reasonable way to estimate the likelihood of them actually getting the release done, given how infamous some video game and visual novel Kickstarters have been.

Actually there's someone involved from Sekai Project and with the "Muv-Luv team" arriving at anime expo this is likely to succeed with flying colors.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:45 am Reply with quote
#840423 wrote:
Steam doesnt allow sex content... so they doing the PS3/All Age versions?

They've only released the 18+ version like twice compared to four all ages releases. It messes up Extra a bit and is noticeable with Unlimited but barely affects Alternative besides the gore censoring.

Personally I'd rather they did Kiminozo as it seemed they wanted to a few years ago but the current version of Extra is a pretty big upgrade over what was fan translated (wide screen with much better scaling options and character animation like Alternative)

Would have been nice to hear about this earlier, didn't think Yoshimune would be back in North America again so soon.
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Lynx Amali





PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:53 am Reply with quote
StormVanguard wrote:

Actually there's someone involved from Sekai Project and with the "Muv-Luv team" arriving at anime expo this is likely to succeed with flying colors.


If Sekai Project has ANYTHING to do with these, they can count my support out. I refuse to support Sekai Project because not only are they are unprofessional as hell, I utterly hate their business practices.

If that does turn out to be the case, its a damn shame as I really want these in English but I do have morals.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:31 am Reply with quote
Lynx Amali wrote:
StormVanguard wrote:

Actually there's someone involved from Sekai Project and with the "Muv-Luv team" arriving at anime expo this is likely to succeed with flying colors.

If Sekai Project has ANYTHING to do with these, they can count my support out. I refuse to support Sekai Project because not only are they are unprofessional as hell, I utterly hate their business practices.

Care to elaborate on Sekai's "unprofessionalism" and hateful "business practices", preferably with links or some sort of evidence? You can't really expect to be able to trash anyone like that without something to back it up.
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Yause



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 11:57 am Reply with quote
invalidname wrote:

Speaking of which, do we know anything about Degica? I had not heard of them before yesterday. Would be nice to have some reasonable way to estimate the likelihood of them actually getting the release done, given how infamous some video game and visual novel Kickstarters have been.


They're a Japanese e-commerce company (kind of like Digital River, I guess?). I remember handling payment through them after buying a few games from Cyberfront's online store.

Recently, they started publishing RPGMaker and other doujin games on Steam as a side venture.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 12:51 pm Reply with quote
invalidname wrote:

Care to elaborate on Sekai's "unprofessionalism" and hateful "business practices", preferably with links or some sort of evidence? You can't really expect to be able to trash anyone like that without something to back it up.


The business practices aren't hateful by any means. I just don't like them. I actually appreciate them getting smaller devs on things like Steam. Had it not been for them helping Love In Space get on Steam, I wouldn't have become a fan of Sunrider. (I'm signed up with the Patreon now so I'm giving money directly to the developers.)

As for my big issue:

Lack of grammar editing:
There's quite a number of glaring and obvious grammatical errors, things that should've been addressed during the editing phase. They were never fixed. Case in point from Fault; http://imgur.com/r6lxVEt.

This has happened in quite a few titles I've tried that they've worked on. This is Writing 101. A line like that should've never been passed in the proofreading phase without changes. Hell, that's not the only issue in there too. This is especially common in their smaller titles as well.

My 'unprofessional' comment comes from the the Clannad fiasco where they were inserting references to things that weren't in the original (which may or may not have stuck and/or been fake.) and general blatant disregard for the English language, even if VNs aren't Shakespearean. I'm a paying customer. I expect quality control of some sort.

I'm also not a big fan of the whole 'Kickstarter first" mentality they started. It's okay once in a while but when EVERY title they pretty much announce these days is Kickstarter-first, it gets tiring. Hell, I remember big name VNs were getting fan translated and said translations were picked up. Those didn't need crowdfunding, mind you some of them were around before Kickstarter.

I hadn't even heard of Frontwing until Grisaia got big among the anime/manga/VN fandom. I'd had heard of 5p, Mages and Nitroplus before hand so I'd assume they'd need more money than somebody like Frontwing for some of their VNs, especially considering you have some very big names in them. There's only a few names that I recognize from Grisaia in terms of VA unlike something like Demonbane and Saya not Uta.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:06 pm Reply with quote
Lynx Amali wrote:
I'm also not a big fan of the whole 'Kickstarter first" mentality they started. It's okay once in a while but when EVERY title they pretty much announce these days is Kickstarter-first, it gets tiring. Hell, I remember big name VNs were getting fan translated and said translations were picked up. Those didn't need crowdfunding, mind you some of them were around before Kickstarter.

To play devil's advocate: Sekai is a small company that just doesn't have enough money to translate every single light novel without some sort financial help. Perhaps you have knowledge of any light novel companies that have made it without depending on Kickstarter heavily?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:18 pm Reply with quote
Does this mean I'll finally be able to play Muv-Luv Alternative?!

BANZAI!!!! Anime hyper Anime hyper Anime hyper Anime hyper Anime hyper Anime hyper Anime hyper
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 7:43 pm Reply with quote
MischievousMelody wrote:
Does this mean I'll finally be able to play Muv-Luv Alternative?!

BANZAI!!!! Anime hyper Anime hyper Anime hyper Anime hyper Anime hyper Anime hyper Anime hyper

Now i hope this doesn't mean you're skipping Extra and Unlimited.
You don't skip to Frodo throwing the ring in the fires of mordor in lord of the rings now do you?
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 7:48 pm Reply with quote
You might if they spent the entire first book just sitting around talking about pie. Demanding that people force their way through Extra is probably going to lead to a lot of attrition.
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