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penguintruth
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Really, one of the worst? I mean, I wouldn't even say it's one of Ocean's worst. I guess when you compare the dub to how great Escaflowne is and what it deserves, sure, it seems pretty bad, because Escaflowne is almost a masterpiece and deserves a better dub. But honestly, if I were to pick an anime that needed a new dub, Escaflowne wouldn't be very high on the list (Macross and Evangelion would be much higher). I'm not exactly going to cry any tears over a redub if Funimation does it in-house. They've come so far that even their middling dubs are better than most of Ocean's. I'd even be interested in hearing how this turns out. But the only reason to even do it is the extra footage. The Escaflowne isn't so bad a dub that it needs replacing for quality. I wish AnimEigo had redubbed Bubblegum Crisis when they put it on Blu-Ray. Now that was something that needed redubbing desperately. |
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TurnerJ
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That's WAAAAY too over-the-top a description for the dub. I can name far, far worse dubs from this era than Escaflowne. Bubblegum Crisis OVA, for instance. A good portion of the junk coming from Manga UK. Even the Sonic the Hedgehog movie. Compared to those, Escaflowne's dub is not THAT bad, it's just an average dub. It's nowhere near "one of the worst dubs of all time", although it's not a great dub either. It has some good performances, but some dodgy ones as well. Once again, the whole thing is very subjective, and just as it's your opinion that it's a bad dub, it's others' opinions if they think otherwise. I'm somewhere in the middle with this dub. I DO think the movie dub is genuinely better. |
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jr240483
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not quite. for one thing Escaflowne isnt very popular or well known within the US otaku community cause the newer generation dont know what it is. most of the them that like the likes of naruto , bleach , one piece and one punch man pretty much dont know some of the old anime series from the 90's (excluding DBZ , SM & Pokemon) like escaflowne since those fans werent born in those timeline so the only people that will be really interested is otakus like myself who were born in the 80's and 90's. also while the bandai dub definitely had its faults, it was pretty decent enough. this series is no vampire hunter d which does have a larger fanbase which is why Sentai Filmworks give the movie a new english dub. dont get me wrong i really do hope it does happen, but would any of the newer funi fans take an interest in it is beyond me. if this was a new dub version of Yu Yu Hakusho , Card Captor Sakura or even Rave Master, then yes. but i really dont see those fanbase taking an interest in this series let alone anyone taking the time to get the funding for a series that no one would even notice outside of the hardcore fanbase. |
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encrypted12345
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Yeah. It's really hard to tell with an anime this old. It used to be popular, but it's now not quite as well known. I'm on the fence personally speaking. While I like escaflowne, and it has the type of setting where a good dub will fit it more than the original Japanese language, I'm still mostly a subs only guy and don't really plan to watch it dubbed either way. I'd be glad if one exists in case I decide to watch it with someone who perfers dubs, but that's pretty unlikely. Funimation also occasionally rubs me the wrong way, but I can let bygones be bygones for a good enough anime, and I doubt a dub for this show will take too many liberties. Maybe if I can get a digital download for decent price. |
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PurpleWarrior13
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For real. With the running crowdfunding campaigns for dubs for Skip Beat and Escaflowne, I kinda wish AnimEigo would've waited a bit for their BGC Kickstarter. I'm usually pretty forgiving of dubs, but other than the odd bit character and (surprisingly) the songs, that one is pretty painful to watch. But THAT's more what I think is the "worst dub of all time" along with the old Akira dub and obvious choices like 4Kids' One Piece. Escaflowne's Ocean dub is mediocre at worst. It's about on the same quality level as, say, Inuyasha or the original Gundam. |
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NitroNeon
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This is saddening.
In an age where Canadian dubs are far and few between, you've got Funimation looking to redub one of their most cherished works. And before anyone tries to tell me they might still use Ocean for it, c'mon now... get real. The reason 'Lauren' danced around the question regarding the Ocean cast is to first ensure they rake in all the nostalgia driven kickstarter pledges BEFORE unveiling an all new (cheaper) Texas cast. Their strategy here is pretty obvious and a little deceptive if you ask me. Anyway, I'm sure the success of this kickstarter venture won't set an ugly precedent for the US anime industry... |
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Kadmos1
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Considering that Funi licenses so many projects and the fact they are tackling several broadcast dubs, this is a risky investment. That is, will it be delayed like several of their other dub titles that should have been released last year or will it be on time?
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MrBonk
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These aren't bad experiences, you just need to wake up and realize what reality is ACTUALLY like. And that roadblocks pop up along the way in any production cycle. They just usually aren't published openly. So you almost contradict yourself about them not being completely transparent. But then moan about other projects being just that. Honest about the reality of the situation. Estimates are only estimates. Things are done, when they ARE DONE. People the sooner you wake up and realize that there are no guarantees for any thing and that release dates for something done on KS are just estimates not accounting for at all things that come up along the way. You need to stop letting this color your experiences as "bad". Because people like you are essentially the investor, and this makes you no better than the meddling executives or shareholders these people are running away from traditionally. That said, Funimation is pretty much being dicks about this. And look they got it all in just about 1 day.  They are using KS for the wrong reasons and using it purely for pre-order and other write-offable big rewards for the bumbling otaku. And most of all, for a hefty profit where they will obviously use only their own in house production and cast. While not being transparent at all, can't do it because of contracts? Bullshit, unless you outright tell us
"Because contractual reasons with the licensor..." you just irritate the fudge out of me. AnimeEigo sure as hell hasn't had any of this kind of PR crap in the way. But maybe that's just because of other reasons. And despite all this, i'll probably still buy in to this... no wait. I won't. I think i'll give my money to people who actually need it. Like for Skip Beat!
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Inu-Yasha
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This was the very first anime I've seen. I'm getting old heh. I be honest I'm ambivalent towards this but I do want a hd blueray ver of Esca.
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Felis
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Funimation has some pretty lousy stretch goals for this kickstarter. For an extra $50K we get behind the scenes interviews and footage. It costs $50K to produce content like that, seriously, I have a hard time believing that. How about a stretch goal to sync the old dub to the the HD video with the director's cut scenes removed. The UK is doing that for their release, surely Funimation could do the same thing.
I already have the Bandai DVD collection of this and I'm not interested in a new English dub so I won't be supporting this. I liked this show but not enough to rebuy it so I'm satisfied with my current DVD set. |
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meruru
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I never watch dubs, but I'll support it if it gets me a physical copy of Escaflowne with English subtitles on Blu ray. Which this does, so I'm sold.
It's very nearly funded already, it makes me so happy to see Escaflowne still has that kind of draw to get funded in about three days even after twenty years. =) And yay for a new release? Escaflowne is hard to find right now, so I've heard. |
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Dessa
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Except for the fact that if this fails, the only difference is that there won't be a dub. They're releasing the subtitled BD regardless. |
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SnowWarren
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A lot of people will be upset if they pledged a large amount and the dub isn't to their liking. It will sour their attitude to future dub kickstarters.
I agree that the stretch goals aren't that exciting. One stretch goal could be that they'll definitely use Ocean studios or that they'll dub the songs as well. |
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meruru
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It's not going to fail due to lack of funds, and Funimation surely isn't going to just outright fail. Late maybe, but I can wait. And I'm happy to give Escaflowne more profits, since it's my all time favorite anime for almost twenty years now. =) |
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cheapassgamer
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Thanks for funding it guys, so I didn't have to. Now I can have my cake and eat it too. Love this show!
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