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LightYapper
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Or perhaps it's Hakumen no Mono's weak point, or some kind of self-destruct device, assuming from how he didn't brag about it in the episode. |
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JaggedAuthor
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Fantastic series from start to finish and easily one of my top picks of 2015-2016. As a fan of the '90s OVAs, I had high hopes for this adaptation, and it managed to surpass them at nearly every turn. I thought the back half of season one and all of season two felt a little condensed, but I wouldn't be opposed to checking out the manga if it ever becomes available in any official capacity.
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MarshalBanana
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I wonder if Viz will dub it, it is perfect for Toonami. And with this and Hunter X Hunter, Viz will b surpassing Funiamtion on there, without having to be part of the production committee.
Megumi Hayashibara did a great job as Hakumen, I used to like her when she voiced Female Ranma. |
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Divineking
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It's a Sentai license actually. Though I agree it's perfect for Toonami so I hope they'll push for it |
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GlassesMan
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I'm going to miss this series. The slowly growing friendship between Ushio and Tora really stuck to me. Hats off to Fujita Kazuhiro for making this great series.
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nagpo
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How was it a perfect adaptation? Plenty was wrong. From the rushed pace and the cut content from the manga.
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belvadeer
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I'm curious about Hakumen's final moment though. spoiler[Did he really want to be born as a human baby or something innocent like that after losing his life to Ushio and Tora? Did that stem from his jealousy of his birth as a being of pure negativity?]
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Aezreal
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While I wouldn't necessarily call it a perfect adaptation either, "perfect" does not mean "sticking by the source material 100%". Cutting content is not always "wrong" or a problem, it depends on how it's done (does the absence of those scenes impact the plot? how so? and so on). If anything, it might've been a more consistent approach to fully remove some sections, as opposed to not depicting them but then acting as though they took place, like how they skipped a supposed "mist monster" that was one of Hakumen's tails but then still showed how Ushio could now kill it after he reforges the spear. As for the rushed pace, it's true that it suffered a big shift in tempo from the 1st half to the 2nd but I personally felt like it gave a much stronger sense of urgency when Hakumen's final plans got in motion. There were only a few specific moments where I felt that something too vital had been crushed in the middle of the narrative, like when Hyou is first defeated by Guren and the scenes come across a bit disjointed (one frame he's somewhere, the next he's somewhere else doing something completely different), or a bit centered on how Nagare was handled (I'm told the execution is better in the manga, in the anime it felt like a bit of a jarring 180º turn at first). Overall I still agree with the general sentiment expressed by Lauren regarding the series. |
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gedata
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From the rushed pacing of the early episodes (mitigated by the 1992 OVAs), the of skipping the entire Western Bakemono war arc that introduced the bakemono of the west spoiler[and their plan to get rid of Ushio's mother with their own army of barrier creating bakemono to keep Hakumen no Mono sealed.It also detailed a part of Hakumen's history and covered it's first encounter with Ushio and Tora. A pretty important arc and it would've been an excellent way to conclude the first season.] Though to make room for it they would've had to cut another arc (which I think they should have done honestly, the H.A.M.M.R arc didn't really need to be there asides from introducing the two scientists that helped develop technology to combat Hakumen later) instead or have a full 52 episodes. Not to mention, cutting so many characters made the ending a bit less cathartic considering spoiler[how much of them returned to contribute to the final battle. The epicness feels notably watered down in the anime as a result] Considering the episode restraints, they did a reasonable job, and that's the all I hoped for coming in. |
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Merxamers
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I'll miss this one a lot :'( I don't think i've seen an anime as earnest and that wore its heart on its sleeve like this one. Great finale to the most shonen-y shonen anime i've ever seen
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Covnam
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I saw the OVA some years ago, but wanted to hold off on watching this till it was done and if it finished the story. So now that it's over, could anyone tell me if it completes the original manga's story?
Thanks 
edit: Also, is it censored? I remember it being quite violent, so I wouldn't be surprised to hear that there were some blackened scenes or something. Last edited by Covnam on Mon Jun 27, 2016 1:46 am; edited 1 time in total |
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whiskeyii
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Not gonna' lie, I went into this series expecting a more dark and gritty tale. I mean, in those early episodes, I felt like it was really not skimping on showing you plenty of (monster) gore with a hefty side order of death. But this show came out pretty emotionally charged, something that I was seriously not expecting, and even managed to avoid a lot of the narrative pitfalls I thought it was going to fall into.
Like Hakumen not being redeemed (or if it was, it may have been that it's consciousness became a child, I'm not totally sure on that), or Tora not being reincarnated (that we saw), or for any of the deaths we've had thus far being undone, or even something as small as granting Hyou death, when I was really sure the series was just going to give us the alcoholic mom and neglected child as replacements for his lost family. I mean, pretty much the only thing I predicted that stayed true was spoiler[Saaya not paying the price for opening the Underworld Gate]. So kudos to this show for actually sticking to its guns, because we've had more than a few shonen that pretty much did all of what I listed above, usually not to successful results. As for being an adaptation, I usually judge adaptations on works I'm not familiar with by how well the story flows. There were a few hiccups here and there (Kirie just dropping out of *nowhere* to live at Mayuko's house was one, as was how he got on friendly terms with Ushio during the memory wipe), but for the most part, I felt like it wasn't too obvious where cuts and rejiggerings had been made. So, pretty successful in my book. I can't fault them too badly for whatever content they cut; there were supposedly over 100 chapters, and 39 episodes to fit it in. It was either cut or cram, and I think the studio made a smart choice in not trying to do a more "faithful" adaptation. |
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DangerMouse
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Yeah, hopefully it gets a dub and it gets on at some point. It's a pretty fitting style show for Toonami. |
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