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If this is intended by the writers, because they always wanted to have a weak female hottie to sell merchandise, then so be it but I find it problematic for the show.

Her dueling the escort wouldn't solve much. Yes, she could have taken care of interpersonal guild business without involving Kirito, but Kuradeel explicitly challenged Kirito and was very full of himself thinking he's better.

Kuradeel says and I quote from the CR subs "A low-level player like you couldn't possibly protect her!" Kirito then retorts "I can do a better job than you." Then Kuradeel initiates the duel - probably due to hurt pride.

Asuna could have stopped it immediately, but I would say she agreed to the duel to show Kuradeel first-hand that Kirito is more than capable enough to dungeon crawl with her.

All the "violence" in town could be all exaggeration - we don't know if they do not feel pain in safe zones (their HP shouldn't drop). How do you knock someone out in a safe zone if you can't technically injure them? But, Heath could have had some of his men restrain Kirito and negotiated that way - but why make a potential enemy out of player that can potentially be beneficial to you with hard handed tactics?

To be honest I am a little amazed that you consider what happened there to be "sanitized." That was one of the LONGEST, most deliberate molesting scenes I have seen in a non erotic anime. Usually in an "accidental" fondle scene, the guy gently touches or gets pressed up against by boobs or butt or whatever. This time, Kirito deliberately squeezes, firmly, not once but multiple times, and the squeezing lasts for such an extended period of time just to make absolutely sure that the viewer can take a moment to touch themselves before it's over. Sanitized (if there is such a thing) might have been "Ooops! She tripped and Kirito's face went into her boobs," or "OOps! She tripped and Kirito's hands accidentally pressed on her boobs." This was "Oooops! She tripped and fell on Kirito and he layed there under her for several seconds squeezing over and over on her privates like he was at the fruit market checking out the firmness of his produce." NOT sanitized.

ChibiKangaroo wrote:

To be honest I am a little amazed that you consider what happened there to be "sanitized." That was one of the LONGEST, most deliberate molesting scenes I have seen in a non erotic anime. Usually in an "accidental" fondle scene, the guy gently touches or gets pressed up against by boobs or butt or whatever. This time, Kirito deliberately squeezes, firmly, not once but multiple times, and the squeezing lasts for such an extended period of time just to make absolutely sure that the viewer can take a moment to touch themselves before it's over. Sanitized (if there is such a thing) might have been "Ooops! She tripped and Kirito's face went into her boobs," or "OOps! She tripped and Kirito's hands accidentally pressed on her boobs." This was "Oooops! She tripped and fell on Kirito and he layed there under her for several seconds squeezing over and over on her privates like he was at the fruit market checking out the firmness of his produce." NOT sanitized.

6 seconds. from the moment the camera showed us that Kirito has his hand on Asuna's funbag, to the point where she started to shriek. that's how long that particular moment lasted. including the OP and ED, the episode was about 23min 30 seconds long. That is a grand total of 1410 seconds run time length of episode 8. so many other things took place in that episode that could make for better discussion topics, but no. you are dead set on over analyzing all of the negativity of a six second scene, that was .004% of the overall episode. move on

Reading through this massive mess, I think we can agree that the events of SAO involving Asuna have a perfectly nonsexist internal logic but can have a somewhat sexist presentation(not counting the groping, of course).

I do think that ChibiKangaroo seems dead set on the worst interpretation possible, though.

To each his or her own. If you would care to expand on what "primary concern" I ignored I would appreciate it.

Polycell wrote:

Reading through this massive mess, I think we can agree that the events of SAO involving Asuna have a perfectly nonsexist internal logic but can have a somewhat sexist presentation(not counting the groping, of course). I do think that ChibiKangaroo seems dead set on the worst interpretation possible, though.

Conclusory statements prove nothing. Disprove what I argued with actual facts or arguments. My interpretation is shared by many in this forum and supported by the facts, so unless you have something better, you aren't adding much.

ChibiKangaroo wrote:

Polycell wrote: Reading through this massive mess, I think we can agree that the events of SAO involving Asuna have a perfectly nonsexist internal logic but can have a somewhat sexist presentation(not counting the groping, of course). I do think that ChibiKangaroo seems dead set on the worst interpretation possible, though. Conclusory statements prove nothing. Disprove what I argued with actual facts or arguments. My interpretation is shared by many in this forum and supported by the facts, so unless you have something better, you aren't adding much.

Seriously? With all of the much more worthy contenders this season (So I can't play H, Aesthetica, Koichoco, Imouto) the standard bearer you choose to display sexism in anime is Sword Art Online? Not to mention that you seem to convienently forget the fact that in episode 6, when Lizbeth landed on him, there were no ecchi hijinks? Dude, people are going to have different opinions then you. Let it go.

Seriously? With all of the much more worthy contenders this season (So I can't play H, Aesthetica, Koichoco, Imouto) the standard bearer you choose to display sexism in anime is Sword Art Online? Not to mention that you seem to convienently forget the fact that in episode 6, when Lizbeth landed on him, there were no ecchi hijinks? Dude, people are going to have different opinions then you. Let it go.

1. Possibly worse examples existing doesn't excuse SAO.
2. Those shows you mentioned aren't even being reviewed in this column anymore.

Red Fox of Fire wrote:

1. Possibly worse examples existing doesn't excuse SAO. 2. Those shows you mentioned aren't even being reviewed in this column anymore.

And those shows present themselves upfront as schlocky fanservice, and never pretend to be anything else.

Bummer. SAO is not is not as perfect as people thought it was going to be. Now that we has established that is has its faults just like everything else that has ever been created, can we just move on.