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NEWS: Funimation: No More Big Windup! Anime to Be Licensed


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Otaku_X



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:51 am Reply with quote
While I have no intrest in sports titles, that does suck for the people who do enjoy them.
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hissatsu01



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:57 am Reply with quote
britannicamoore wrote:
$70 for a 26 episodes isn't cool. And yes you can find it cheaper- just wait until the complete set hits.

Why pay that much? Funis shooting themsleves in the foot with the complete boxsets coming out for less than one part. Thats why i didn't buy them although they are on my list. If they release a complete set they'll see more sale numbers. People aren't stupid and they aren't just going to throw away money.


If you refuse to buy anything until it reaches the bargain bin or is released as a complete series, don't complain when fewer shows are licensed.
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crosswithyou



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 3:59 am Reply with quote
hissatsu01 wrote:
If you refuse to buy anything until it reaches the bargain bin or is released as a complete series, don't complain when fewer shows are licensed.


IAWTC.
Only shows that do well in their initial release will be re-released as complete box sets. And dude-- How can you not be satisfied with half-season sets? Who pays retail these days, anyway?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:01 am Reply with quote
Well this blows! Sad
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Emerje



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:01 am Reply with quote
Ggultra2764 wrote:
Guess this shoots down the likelihood of Cross Game ever being licensed here in the states. Sad


This is basically what I was thinking. Had I known Big Windup! would determine the fate of other good sports shows (especially Cross Game) I might have given it a chance. It is a bit sad that they are basing the future of an entire anime theme on the performance of a single title. Would they have stopped doing mecha or magical girl shows if their first ventures had been failures? Probably not. Isn't Bamboo Blade also technically a sports title? How's it doing? Sure, it's moe (of the very tamest variety), but it should still have as much sway as Windup. Maybe compromise with a moe baseball title like Taishou Yakyuu Musume and then give us Cross Game?

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The Count



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:21 am Reply with quote
Emerje wrote:
Ggultra2764 wrote:
Guess this shoots down the likelihood of Cross Game ever being licensed here in the states. Sad


This is basically what I was thinking. Had I known Big Windup! would determine the fate of other good sports shows (especially Cross Game) I might have given it a chance. It is a bit sad that they are basing the future of an entire anime theme on the performance of a single title. Would they have stopped doing mecha or magical girl shows if their first ventures had been failures? Probably not. Isn't Bamboo Blade also technically a sports title? How's it doing? Sure, it's moe (of the very tamest variety), but it should still have as much sway as Windup. Maybe compromise with a moe baseball title like Taishou Yakyuu Musume and then give us Cross Game?

Emerje
Its not just one title. As Justin and many others have said, pretty much all sports titles fail to preform well no matter who the publisher is.
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JohnnyJavabeans



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:25 am Reply with quote
dragonrider_cody wrote:
hissatsu01 wrote:
skafreak51 wrote:
It makes me mad, but I can understand why people didn't buy it- 50 dollars plus is outrageous for 13 episodes.

First of all, if you're paying retail prices, you're doing it wrong. I paid less than $70 for both volumes of Big Windup combined, with free shipping, and it was not on sale. Second of all, anime has never been cheaper in the US. An outrage indeed! The only thing that's outrageous is whining about the "high" prices of anime in the US.


Couldn't agree more. The first series I collected was Descendants of Darkness, and I paid $30 for each of the four volumes, or $120 total. That's more than $9 an episode. I can't complain about $70 or even $80 for a complete 22-26 episode series.

This complaining about pricing is getting ridiculous.

While I do agree with you that comparing to a few years ago the prices has gone down considerably, I believe that it is unfair to compare the two time periods on the same level due to the drastic changes in the economic statuses seen in the recent years comparing to then, 2009 being a big hitter. The point still stands that at the present, people are learning a lesson to spend wisely and not to just throw money around as a previous poster mentioned. The cost of living is much higher. Perhaps to those who really want the series, ~$70 is justifiable but to the regular consumers just passing by, that price tag is a big turn off. Sure you can wait for a sale but how would that help the company much more? In the end, they aren't making a lot in immediate profit and those are the figures that count the most I think, not so much how many you sell a few months later after the price depreciates.

In the end, the entertainment business is a big one and very competitive. Therefore, instead of comparing anime prices with the past, wouldn't it be more reasonable to compare it with the rest of the products being released by the entertainment industries worldwide? It doesn't matter that the competition may be bigger and thus have more resources to spend, to the regular consumer, they're all the same, moving pictures. I won't get into how the Internet has an effect on this as well, as its been discussed to oblivion and I am liking how companies like FUNimation are starting to embrace it rather than burn it at the stake. While I can't really offer much of a better marketing strategy at the moment, that's usually where you hire specialists to assist and right now, I just think the current model isn't up to par to the rest of the competition and I mean the North American market, not in Japan. Though, the Kanon S.A.V.E. edition seems to be a step in the right direction.

Still though, it sucks. But sparse advertisement and a huge price tag just doesn't scream "Buy Me!" in my opinion, though it varies from people to people. Hopefully they change their mind later down the road and license the second season for those who are following it and besides, a little change away from the seemingly dominant harem/moe titles would be good.
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RedZ1900



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:31 am Reply with quote
Oh here we go again...Rolling Eyes I Guess I'll just say what I've been saying for the past 2 years.

Solution:

People, Stop being cheap and buy the dang DVD's. I can understand if you're the 12% who are poor, but for the 88% of you middle class and upper class people who can afford luxuries one in a while, cut back on downloading/streaming whatever, and just buy it! If you really love anime that much, you should support what you love by providing animation companies money so they can continue doing what they're doing. Stop ruining it for all of us.
Thank you to the people who actually buy the DVD's and merchandise. Without you, anime wouldn't be as big as it is now.

I'm outa here. Arrow
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Kid Ryan



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:44 am Reply with quote
Conan-san wrote:
babynaruto1 wrote:
Well this just sucks, I enjoyed the English DUB of Season 1.

Now how the hell am I supposed to be able to watch Season 2?

(I REFUSE to watch it subbed or RAW).


You better get used to that, Homeslice.

The Horde of Voltron stike again.


^ Troll.

I will watch it RAW if I ever learn Japanese, but I'll never watch it subbed.
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luffypirate



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 4:50 am Reply with quote
babynaruto1 wrote:
Conan-san wrote:
babynaruto1 wrote:
Well this just sucks, I enjoyed the English DUB of Season 1.

Now how the hell am I supposed to be able to watch Season 2?

(I REFUSE to watch it subbed or RAW).


You better get used to that, Homeslice.

The Horde of Voltron stike again.


^ Troll.

I will watch it RAW if I ever learn Japanese, but I'll never watch it subbed.


^ Cheap.

Try BUYING a show for once. Leechers do the industry no good.
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teh*darkness



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:01 am Reply with quote
Well, while it sucks that only a few months after they released the second set they're saying they won't consider season 2, they did say "same genre of sports anime". I'd assume this means baseball anime, or maybe "more realistic" ones, who knows. But I'd guess it might include the likes of One Outs and Prince of Tennis, the tournament sports shows. But something like Taishou or Bamboo Blade which have other elements as well (or even Umisho, which I would definitely buy if it was licensed, even though I normally would never touch a sports anime) don't fall into the same category. Even something like Shion no Ou is different enough that it might escape the "same genre of sports anime" statement.

We'll just have to wait and see.
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doriinatrix



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:03 am Reply with quote
Aww dang. Big Windup's on my to-buy list, what a shame...
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Patachu
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:05 am Reply with quote
Jedi General wrote:
Though maybe if there was an anime featuring 13-year-olds in bikinis who pilot giant robots WHILE PLAYING BASEBALL (or ANY sport for that matter) ...


Day 1 purchase confirmed!

Quote:
EDIT: Wait, that's already been done (sort of). Basquash, anyone?


13-year-olds in D-cup bikinis.
That should just about make it the next Cowboy Bebop or Pokemon right there.
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Kid Ryan



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:08 am Reply with quote
luffypirate85 wrote:
babynaruto1 wrote:
Conan-san wrote:
babynaruto1 wrote:
Well this just sucks, I enjoyed the English DUB of Season 1.

Now how the hell am I supposed to be able to watch Season 2?

(I REFUSE to watch it subbed or RAW).


You better get used to that, Homeslice.

The Horde of Voltron stike again.


^ Troll.

I will watch it RAW if I ever learn Japanese, but I'll never watch it subbed.


^ Cheap.

Try BUYING a show for once. Leechers do the industry no good.


I didn't download Big Windup (Season 1), I rented the DVDs from Netflix.

And I would buy it, but no job Sad.
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merr



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 09, 2010 5:09 am Reply with quote
JohnnyJavabeans wrote:
I just think the current model isn't up to par to the rest of the competition and I mean the North American market, not in Japan.

But you can't really compare the two. American TV shows make most of their money through *gasp* television ads. The DVDs are released as an afterthought in order to make a little extra money once all is said and done. With anime, all the money has to come from DVD sales.

I doubt any company could sustain itself if they were forced to release shows at the same price point as most American TV DVDs. Frankly, I'm still amazed that Funi can even make money with the half-season model.
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