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REVIEW: Psycho-Pass episodes 1 - 11 streaming


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Gina Szanboti



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 4:14 pm Reply with quote
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On her first day of work she gets the call to go to a domestic violence case that has escalated out of control

I feel compelled (because my Psycho-Pass is cloudy) to point out that the target was flagged by a routine street scan, flipped out at the prospect of his life being ruined by this, and then kidnapped a bystander. This was in no way domestic violence.

The difference is not a small point, because a domestic violence call would be dealing with someone who had already acted out on some level, out of control or not, rather than showing how the very system designed to pre-empt crime essentially pushed this man over the edge into becoming a criminal.
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Kazemon15



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 5:38 pm Reply with quote
CrownKlown wrote:


Also the fact that Amano did the character style was a bad choice, her style is suited to shonen/battle style manga like reborn, not something dark. Hell main female character is basically haru, which does not instill confidence.



Well, I for one, am only watching it because it has Amano's designs in it. If it was just regular old designs, I would never have picked it up in the first place or decided I wanted to buy it by episode 10. I think the designs work fine. I like the shounen art style the best, I love her art style the best and there is no other manga I'm even thinking of reading if it does not have her art style in it.

I'm pretty sure I'm not the only person watching just due to the designs. Most of the reborn fandom is also watching this show because of it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:05 pm Reply with quote
Merida wrote:
Princess_Irene wrote:
Keichitsu0305 wrote:

As a reviewer, I'm sure Rebecca must feel somewhat obligated to establish Trigger Warnings in her review


That's precisely it, Keichitsu. I couldn't find a good place to stick it in the review - I tried a few - and that felt like the only place that it fit.


I don't really want to discuss whether the warning is needed or not, but i would have preferred if you had put somehwhere it in the review because now it might look to some people (it sure did to me) like the lack of warning actually influenced the grade...


I find it weird in general because it seems really out-of-place. The review's about Psycho Pass, and then suddenly....by the way, remember that massacre in CT? I didn't even think about it while reading the article until it was blatantly brought up there. Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:12 pm Reply with quote
Merida wrote:

I don't really want to discuss whether the warning is needed or not, but i would have preferred if you had put somehwhere it in the review because now it might look to some people (it sure did to me) like the lack of warning actually influenced the grade...


Fair enough. As I've said before, I just couldn't find a good place for it, but thank you for the clarity as opposed to just saying it's weird.

To be clear myself:
The comment about potential disturbing content is in no way related to my grade for the show as a whole. The grade would have been the same regardless, and in the future if such an issue comes up, I will find a different way to place it.

Now can we move on?
Surely there's more to talk about than this! <--hopeful[/b]
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 6:17 pm Reply with quote
One of my favorite series of Fall Season and going strong every week. I've also started watching Ghost in the Shell recently which I found similar to P-P.
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Thatguy3331



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 9:39 pm Reply with quote
Its a pretty decent show and I look forward to seeing what the next 11 episodes are. It really wasn't something I can say I was looking forward to though, aside from Amano doing the character designs at a time when I was simply repelled by reborn like a magnet on the wrong end, an issue I have with shows that try to be "dark and edgy" is that they can go so deep into their own maddness that it begins to make less and less sense. There are times when the show feel like it tries too hard (episode 1) but all in all I'm not finding any major things detracting me from the show.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 10:16 pm Reply with quote
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jymmy wrote:
I found Fate/Zero difficult to watch because the Gilgamesh's admiration of the blue-eyed, blonde-haired Saber recalled Hilter's admiration of the Aryans.

Are you trolling? Nobody's that sensitive. And I do not recall Gilgamesh saying that he admired Saber specifically because of her hair and eyes.

How can you be so insensitive? Next you're going to tell me you were able to stomach Evangelion Unit-01 spoiler[taking into itself the S² Organ of Zeruel, the Fourteenth Angel in spite of its obvious parallels to Issei Sagawa, a well-known Japanese cannibal who killed and ate a foreign woman (Japanese and French, clone of Lilith and child of Adam) - to compensate for something he felt he lacked. Sagawa was a very short man who did not find himself particularly attractive and felt Renée Hartevelt had beautiful qualities he wished to absorb through eating her; Yui needed to attain the Fruit of Life in the form of an S² Engine in order to put into motion her plan to live as an eternal being and a testament to mankind's existence.]
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walw6pK4Alo



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:28 pm Reply with quote
Please do more jymmy, I'm finding your strange sensitivity amusing.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:27 am Reply with quote
I'm not insensitive, you're just too sensitive, absurdly so. You make connections that aren't even there and draw parallels between completely different and unrelated events.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 12:29 am Reply with quote
jymmy wrote:
dtm42 wrote:
jymmy wrote:
I found Fate/Zero difficult to watch because the Gilgamesh's admiration of the blue-eyed, blonde-haired Saber recalled Hilter's admiration of the Aryans.

Are you trolling? Nobody's that sensitive. And I do not recall Gilgamesh saying that he admired Saber specifically because of her hair and eyes.

How can you be so insensitive? Next you're going to tell me you were able to stomach Evangelion Unit-01 taking into itself the S² Organ of Zeruel, the Fourteenth Angel in spite of its obvious parallels to Issei Sagawa, a well-known Japanese cannibal who killed and ate a foreign woman (Japanese and French, clone of Lilith and child of Adam) - to compensate for something he felt he lacked. Sagawa was a very short man who did not find himself particularly attractive and felt Renée Hartevelt had beautiful qualities he wished to absorb through eating her; Yui needed to attain the Fruit of Life in the form of an S² Engine in order to put into motion her plan to live as an eternal being and a testament to mankind's existence.


I can't even tell if you're being serious or trolling. Either way I'm amused.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:05 am Reply with quote
Getting a little off-topic there jymmy, how about you try and reign it in a bit.
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jymmy



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 1:23 am Reply with quote
Yep, sorry, Keonyn. Anyway, apart from reminding the viewer strongly of twenty schoolchildren, Kogami really was a boss in episode eleven.
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yamata no orochi



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 2:55 am Reply with quote
Psycho Pass has been pretty problematic for me, mainly because as interesting as it's been at times it's also been very revealing of Gen Urobuchi's flaws as a writer. I thought Madoka Magica was great, and the little I've read of Saya no Uta really got under my skin in horrifying ways. As for Psycho Pass, though...

-The dialogue is noticeably stilted. This isn't quite as noticeable when the police are talking to each other, but especially in the high school arc the teenagers sounded more like soporific robots than like actual teenagers. This was also a problem in Madoka Magica but there the dialogue at least sounded a bit more natural coming out of the mouths of middle schoolers. High schoolers, not so much.

-For an allegedly cyberpunk series, Psycho Pass very rarely delves very deep into any of the ideas it touches upon. It touches on a ton of potentially interesting ideas (the implication that medicine and government have been combined to create the Sybil System, treatment of societal privilege, even GiTS-style cyborgs) but very few of them are new and most come off as half-baked. It's pretty clear that outside of a few key aspects of the setting, Urobuchi doesn't care much about the sci-fi aspects of the setting.

-On that note, just about every case in the series is solved by Shinya. Even the Major in Stand Alone Complex relied heavily on the rest of Section 9 in order to get anywhere. From what we've seen so far, while Shinya might not be the only interesting character (there are others) he's the only one who gets anything done!

-Psycho Pass revels in its violence to the point where I get really uncomfortable. You could level accusations against Madoka Magica for being emotional torture porn, but I think that not only is Psycho Pass much more graphic (featuring rape, people getting turned into statues, people being hunted by robot dogs and shot in the face) but it also feels pointless and occasionally even fetishistic. The fact that the worst of it is perpetrated against women (more women being strangled, an Urobuchi trademark!) makes it even creepier.

Honestly I don't think that Psycho Pass is really a show about society as it is a show about violence. I don't think that it's a coincidence that many of the culprits so far have been artists (whether that art be drama, sculpture or even sportsmanship) or that their methods are often incredibly over the top to the point of being fantastical. Really the series comes down to me as a cross between a sci-fi noir film like Ghost in the Shell or Minority Report crossed with the elaborate death scenarios of Hostel, Saw or even the internet RPG Beautiful Escape: Dungeoneer, but I guess we'll see how things turn out. Urobuchi is certainly a talented writer, but there are enough warning signs seeded all over Psycho Pass that I'm uncertain about how things will turn out.
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dizzon



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:31 am Reply with quote
yamata no orochi wrote:
For an allegedly cyberpunk series,


You had a lot going on in your post and more power to ya, but I'm going to stop you right here, there is no "allegedly" about it Psycho-Pass is most certainly cyberpunk.
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jymmy



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PostPosted: Wed Jan 02, 2013 4:49 am Reply with quote
Some very nice points there, yamata no orochi, but I disagree about the violence issue. I don't see Madoka or Psycho-Pass as torture porn. If we're talking about how the intense scenes are played for viewer affect, I think shows with cleaner, more palatable emotions like grief and loss like Clannad, Ano Hana or Angel Beats! are closer to overplaying what's there. Madoka or Psycho-Pass may be needlessly dark and dramatic (I say may) but I don't see the way it's portrayed as over-the-top.

I guess what it comes down to is the idea of fetishism. Sure, Psycho-Pass can be taken fetishistically, and for all I know Urobochi could indeed have a thing for girls being strangled or emotionally tortured, but that's not the type of enjoyment - or perhaps appreciation - I get from the show. I just see it as effective, engaging and mildly unpleasant drama, the same as horror elements in any show.

If I could take it as a bad thing and then honestly give a reason for it, I'd say over-reliance on violence perpetrated on cute or weak characters for shock value or viewer affect.
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