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NEWS: Attack on Titan Manga Has 19.5 Million in Print

That's 1 example, you seem to like small numbers

animenewsnetwork.com/house-of-1000-manga/2010-11-18
"Artists like Akira Toriyama and Yoshihiro Togashi had to be dragged kicking and screaming into doing fighting manga, when all they really wanted to produce were gag manga"

From your favourite source.

animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-11-30/top-selling-manga-in-japan-by-series/2011
animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-12-02/30-top-selling-manga-in-japan-by-series/2012
3 million in 2011, 2 million 2012. Now, read the title of this thread you keep insulting people for hurting for your precious Shueisha, kid.

You have yet to contradict anything I've said with actual facts or reasoning. What's more, you're ignoring parts of my comments because... ?

19.5 mil X 450 ￥ were at the tip of their fingers. You must be really naive, to think that some of them NEVER even blinked when they saw those numbers.

And don't change the subject you laughable fanboy, Silver Spoon or Magi were never offered to them on a silver platter. Edit: For that matter, Silver Spoon was a manga from a very successful mangaka, what if it wasn't ?

Here's another fun fact, One Piece went down by... 14.531.507(I even did the math for you) from 2011 to 2012. Because you keep bringing it up like it's this eternal source of money.

jree78 wrote:

The Manga seemed to have low sales in the US, it was very low on the manga sales charts on Amazon.com. Now the sales are in the top ten in Manga on Amazon.com. Rather amazing.

Yeah, all the four released English versions are in the top 10.

http://www.amazon.com/Best-Sellers-Books-Manga-Comics-Graphic-Novels/zgbs/books/4367/ref=zg_bs_nav_b_2_4366

"but in general, they certainly have more respect for creators' rights than Hollywood or the superhero comics industry"

Uh...why do you keep quoting previous years when we're talking about THIS year once more AoT actually DECREASED in sales in the second link you provided

10 titles from Shiuesha sells more than AoT
You don't have a valid reason as to why Shuiesha rejected him
You don't know anything about Shuiesha's process, you're still blindily hating them because they rejected your overrated precious mangaka.

You really suck at math once more you really are naive if you believe Shuiesha kept tabs on what goes on with other manga.

Oh...since AoT went through the process of most manga means the others don't count? I see where this is going

Here's another fact; One Piece sales were so high previous years because it was for three years straight getting it's revenue from backlog i.e. people buying the previous volumes because now everyone in Japan has caught up, the latest volumes sell roughly over 3-4 million per copy still more than your precious Aot (which latest volume hasn't even broken the 1 million marker yet) and the backlog will not last as long either since they continue to fall.

Just ignore.

There's something wrong when you're being forced into doing crap you don't want to. Despite what respect Shueisha or anyone else supposedly has for their mangaka, that still happens.

At the start of this year, every volume of AoT was around 400-500k. Now they're around 1.2 million (just a 600-700k X 10 difference, not like that will ever). Surely this will have no impact on this years best selling manga list and there's no way it can POSSIBLY reach 10 mil or more.

Name them, I'm not going anywhere for 1-2 hours. Several sources say they were trying to make him change his art. This isn't exactly hard to find, you know.

And for the last time, I don't care about him or his work. But, in an industry where a creator will change his work if 10 fans or 1 editor says something, it's really something that he actually stood up for his work.

My math sucks because I pointed out the amount of money Kodansha and the author made or will make from his work ? And silly me, it's not like they have a common market or anything. Shueisha doesn't care about the money it could have been making or its competition.

Why should it count ? Shueisha never "lost" any money from Magi or Silver Spoon, because no one offered those titles to them to begin with. Are you even trying to make sense ?

Translation: I don't care that One Piece sold 14 mil less copies in 2012, it's still sells BETTER than AoT like that point was ever CONTESTED by anyone.

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Yeah...you're talking out your ass now or you have no idea how these averages work.

And you're still lying out your ass...

Uh...you do realize that his prototype manga he gave to Jump is completely different from the manga that is now right?

No you made a shitty guesstimate based on incomplete numbers from this site as well as make up your costs for the manga itself ignoring all the retailers Oricon puts into account. You don;t know nothing about Shuiesha or even what you're talking about. Give it a rest

But never lost money from AoT either, you're not making much sense at all.

I gave you an explanation and you just flat out ignore it? Classic.

Oh look another ******.

When you're being forced to work on something you don't want to, that stops being editorial bs that everyone has to deal with.

Estimated
Copies Sold

See that little thing over there ? It averages 1-1.2 million for most of AoT's current 10 volumes. The numbers increased by 500-700k for every volume this year, as I mentioned earlier.

Google it.

Where are those 10 titles that are selling 1-1.2 million copies per volume from Shueisha ?

Yes, I'm sure that manga in no way resembles his current work at all. It's like Resident Evil 4, it changed every E3 drastically.

What ? All the numbers I gave you are from Oricon Those ANN links I keep giving around here USE those numbers. Do they only work when you feel like it ?
If you would actually look at the bottom of the page Source: Oricon

If you want to know how much a manga costs, it's not that hard. You go to amazon.co.jp and check it out. AoT volumes were 450 Yen when I looked last time.

They blew it because they couldn't s into the future,, but I'm gonna ignore the fact that the majority of their titles are still selling better than Aot because I'm a biased fantard.

I'm still gonna ignore the explanation given because I'm too much of a biased fantard to pay attention.

Btw, I'm still waiting for those 10 titles Shueisha has released that are selling 1.2 mil copies per volume. You gonna dodge your statements even more ?

So your entire stance is worthless.

Your act is getting kinda old now, I've already explain why OP's numbers were down but you still seem to be covering your ears.

Just so you know amazon.co.jp isn't the adjusted cost for the majority of the retailers out side the market.

Yeah...they're crying in their sleep as we speak.

As soon as you get out of your own make believe world where AoT sells 1.2 million per copy and provide source that SHuiesha is regretting their descison.

These comments are terribly entertaining.

Sarcasm, learn to notice it.

Blah, blah blah, I'm not listening

So, you think it actually costs less in other places ?

Losing millions of dollars will do that to a company.

I did

As for Shueisha regretting their decision, there will never be a public statement about such a thing. How can they admit that ?

One Piece, Kimi ni Todoke, Naruto and maybe Hunter x Hunter... That's it, 4 titles sell 1-1.2 million copies or more... And you have the nerve to say that there's no way Shueisha cares.

So you pretty much admit that you're talking out your ass...

How can they lose something that was never there to begin with? Your logic makes no sense.