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Blood-
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While I have no doubt that the VN is superior and the anime is suffering primarily because there simply aren't enough episodes to do it justice, I also have to say that as someone not familiar with the source material, I am coming to enjoy this. It's taken a while, but I'm starting to really get into the story.
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danpmss
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About the prose, I referring about the characteristic highly descriptive and passionate aspect of the overall presentation of the VN as a whole with each of its respective elements. Be them characters, motivations for those, story in general, narrative, dialogues, battle descriptions (which could be adapted nicely visually, much like the Fate Series was), and the list goes on. The thing is: It actually would be doable to an extent (it IS adaptable, and it's supposed to be a slow burner at least until things actually start exploding in epicness), but it would take several episodes to do so in a way that would make good use of the storytelling and highly imaginative presentation style in the VN. I would say, it would take something along the lines of the second half of the Chimera Ants arc in "HunterxHunter (2011)" or maybe even "Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu" style of presentation, except in monologue format (both of which are great in that regard, as a narrative exposition) for specific parts, and there'ì would be quite a bit of content that could be trimmed to fit those things in a comfortable pacing (a.k.a. not to the point of dragging besides going slower). By the way, they kinda did it in certain parts, really, but only barely. And believe me, it would be way more interesting and satisfying than what we got, being as incompatible with the medium as a visual novel could get or not. Alternatively, we could get it the Shaft approach instead, which is perfect to adapt monologue, narrative and dialogue heavy works, like the Monogatari Series, in an actual fast pacing at that. I wonder the great things that could come from Shaft (the Shinbo guy from Shaft, to be exact) if they ever decided to start adapting visual novels like this in their style. Is just that this is one story that doesn't work properly without its presentation, characterization and storytelling (none of each is quite present in the anime adaptation). Monogatari style could in fact be my best bet, not that the budget would suffice however, nor the number of episodes, even in that case (though the results would have been already better than what we got). The reason for this is that this is a "kickstarted" anime project, I would say a passion project of a sort (as a big fan I can see that much, despite everything going wrong in the process). But it could have been better in a more fortunate circumstance. In any case, it's already better than nothing, it's just a shame it will get quite an infamous reputation (if it didn't already get). Last edited by danpmss on Sun Nov 12, 2017 11:46 pm; edited 2 times in total |
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danpmss
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Happy to hear that, as I'm enjoying it myself besides knowing most of what is going wrong with it (in any case they could still actually adapt nicely the later parts, so I putting my faith on the rest of the adaptation for now). That may be because they are actually putting a good effort in adapting most of the essential they can in here. The execution will probably be what ruins the experience for most of the viewers, but they are kinda going quite well for such a limited run of an adaptation. Compared to what we got with Rewrite not so long ago, this is actually good in a way. |
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I also give the show props for what it is doing on its crowdfunded budget. It's producing 18 episodes at anywhere from a third to half of what a "normally" financed 1-cours would cost. You can see the impact of that, but not to the extent that I would have assumed.
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getchman
He started it Posts: 9122 Location: Bedford, NH |
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until this ep, I had though Shirou was kidnapped by the evil organization so they could make him a host for Heydrich. He kinda looks like him and one thought that ran thought my head was maybe he's been missing for over half a century is because he can't manifest without breaking reality so a host would be needed. or something like that. and if you want a provoke some poor random guy into a fight, what better way to get that going by making him think he'll be saving his friend if he wins
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dtm42
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My pet theory was that Shirou had willingly joined the evil organisation to gain power for himself, but otherwise my thoughts aligned with yours. No better way to wring drama out of a story than to have the hero's best friend becoming an enemy. |
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Animechic420
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Yeah, it should've been a no brainer that this show wasn't gonna get better.
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getchman
He started it Posts: 9122 Location: Bedford, NH |
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I don't normally say this, but I appreciate the info dump we got in ep 7. That made a lot of things clearer and at least partially confirmed my earlier thoughts on Heydrich. The guy currently cant properly manifest into this world since he'll break reality, but he doesn't need Shiro for that. just a lot of dead people
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Joa
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I think it's worth mentioning that there aren't any mecha skeletons in the visual novel, they're anime original. I'm guessing that they added them to make the fights more visually interesting.
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Animechic420
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This show just loves throwing random bits of information at us in hopes that it'll stick.
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zrnzle500
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I was mostly wondering why Marie was walking barefoot on the balls of her feet when she was talking to Ren on the roof of the hospital. Well, if there were any other reason than the one I was thinking of. I'm pretty sure she generally wore shoes previously, though I'm not interested enough to look into that further.
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Key
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Yeah, I forgot to bring that up and also thought it was pointlessly odd. |
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Joa
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This is the problem with only adapting the third route of the VN. In the VN you're supposed to already know the characters and concepts by this point from the first two routes. The anime did add some exposition and characterization from the other three routes, but not nearly enough, so it's just a confusing mess. |
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Nordhmmer
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Great news everybody.. /s
There are six more episodes... |
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zrnzle500
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I was looking at the official website to see when the web episodes will be out and apparently the answer is...July. Maybe the extra time will improve the production.
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