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WANNFH
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 Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 2:30 am
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| Angel M Cazares wrote: | | Isn't the new Urusei Yatsura an Aniplex Japan title? |
Aniplex is involved, but the head of PC is a FujiTV since it's Noitamina anime, so it's probably have something to do with Hidive licensing titles that are part of the block. Ironically, RK is also being part of Noitamina, so...
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BigOnAnime
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 2:35 am
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| Angel M Cazares wrote: | | Isn't the new Urusei Yatsura an Aniplex Japan title? |
They're on the production committee, but they don't handle the international rights. Aniplex Japan doesn't always handle international rights to shows they're on the production committee for. International rights are handled by Fuji TV through Fuji Creative Corporation.
https://fujicreative.co.jp/forBuyers/animation/works-9178/
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residentgrigo
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:26 am
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If a Shounen Jump battle anime isn´t the furthest away from what Noitamina was created for to be then I don´t know what is. Kinda funny actually. 3 26 ep seasons are needed to do this right and that is a pipe dream with Noitamina unless it becomes the Kenshin block for half a year or so till 2025. These are the issues the anime faces, outside of he who shall not be named.
I´ll admit that LIDEN FILMS made a solid-looking page-by-page adaptation of Bastard, for good or ill, so they aren´t the quality death kneel they used to be but the listed staff is middle of the road. The red flags would give me pause but my enthusiasm was murdered years ago. The films began way before we found out who made the manga and the last 2 were in pre-production before the police raid. Circumstances here are of course very different as years have passed so that is why people are done making excuses.
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MarshalBanana
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 4:38 am
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| BigOnAnime wrote: | | Aniplex Japan started to let others not Aniplex USA license their stuff again a few years ago, but it was only to FUNimation and Crunchyroll, which are now one single company, and like Aniplex are under the Sony conglomerate umbrella. It's most likely going to go to Aniplex USA and stream on Crunchyroll. |
I hope Aniplex dub it, they've done some pretty good dubs, and they get Union actors.
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DamianSalazar
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 5:08 am
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| MarshalBanana wrote: | | I hope Aniplex dub it, they've done some pretty good dubs, and they get Union actors. |
Does anyone know whether Richard Cansino is active?
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WANNFH
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 8:23 am
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| residentgrigo wrote: | | If a Shounen Jump battle anime isn´t the furthest away from what Noitamina was created for to be then I don´t know what is. |
Noitamina had battle anime before with Katanagatari and Idaten, and WSJ anime with The Promised Neverland - so it ain't really new.
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Glordit
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:06 am
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| residentgrigo wrote: | | If a Shounen Jump battle anime isn´t the furthest away from what Noitamina was created for to be then I don´t know what is. |
It's hardly since Samurai Flamenco, [C], Punch Line, Inuyashiki and Kabaneri of the Iron Fortress was on Noitamina.
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Kiwi93
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:15 am
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| Shuichi wrote: | | I don’t think the series will be licensed in the US giving the circumstances tbh. That’s why the manga stopped being released here. |
There is no way this isn’t going to get licenced for the U.S, as much as there is controversy with the author this series is highly anticipated.
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Rentwo
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:45 am
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| Shuichi wrote: | | I don’t think the series will be licensed in the US giving the circumstances tbh. That’s why the manga stopped being released here. |
I think that was just Viz's personal descision. Other companies may not care. Toriko was licensed, after all.
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Meongantuk
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 9:58 am
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| Shuichi wrote: | | I don’t think the series will be licensed in the US giving the circumstances tbh. That’s why the manga stopped being released here. |
The live action movies are on Netflix, so I doubt the anime wouldn't get licensed. Worse come to worst, it's gonna be Netflix exclusive release like the last two LA movies.
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Megumi Chisato
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 10:40 am
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I find issues like these with J. K. Rowling, Ezra Miller, Vic Mignogna, Nobuhiro Nishiwaki, etc... very fascinating from a moral/philosophical standpoint. Beyond the whole separating the artist from their art debate, do criminals deserve fair compensation for their work? What if they've already been charged and reformed? Are we criminals by association if the money we pay to appreciate their work gets appropriated into funding criminal acts? But we didn't specifically pay to enable their criminal behavior. Shouldn't they take full responsibility for what they do with the money that they rightfully earned? Is it our job to play the moral arbiter when it comes to deciding who is worthy of making an honest living? By extension, does this mean that those who accept their money in exchange for food are also enabling their crimes by prolonging their lives?
I don't have a definitive answer to these questions, but I can't help pondering them whenever cases like these pop up (as this kinda hits close to home for personal reasons). Regardless, I'll probably check the series out if I'm able to. Samurai X was one of the few anime I actually watched religiously growing up.
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Kiwi93
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:04 am
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You touch on some good points here to me it really feels like a grey area in these type of situations. Personally I can understand why some would feel uncomfortable watching this or not wanting to support it given what the author did.
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NeverConvex
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:07 am
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| Megumi Chisato wrote: | | What if they've already been charged and reformed? |
This is the key bit, for me; he was charged, but nothing about the process makes me think any kind of reform in behavior was likely. According to one of the ANN articles, he owned videos with "nude footage of young girls in their early teens" (and reportedly said he ""liked girls in late elementary school to around the second year of middle school.", though I'd rather focus on material harms caused than just his predliections). So, just to get it out of the way, not like some kind of borderline case. In America, at least, I believe people sometimes (no idea how frequently) can get tagged as sex offenders for statutory rape laws for sex between two consenting teenagers who just happened to fall just above/below consent age boundaries, or for public exposure or something. But nothing about Watsuki's case was borderline. Dude was just outright unambiguously buying large quantities of child pornography.
I can't seem to find the specific article I wanted, but wiki reports the total charge was about $1,500, and I am pretty sure an earlier ANN piece said he had ~100 videos. So, it's hard to believe he even noticed the overall size of the charge, and the per-video charge ($15?) is so low that it feels like a dark joke. I can't imagine that making him re-think his choices going forward. Unless there was some much more serious reflection on his part, or some more serious attempt at punishment or reformation that I missed, I just don't see how anyone could read about this and think there's any reason he'd behave differently going forward (except maybe to try and lie low for a while until he thinks he's being less actively watched..). Maybe you'd hope the career repercussions would do it, but we're literally here talking about new major announcements for his flagship franchise -- so, feels like that won't make a dent either.
That said, if there were some good reason to believe behavior had reformed, then .. I mean, it doesn't really accomplish anything to punish someone for its own sake. In that case I'd consume it if I wanted to, and guilt-free. I just don't think we're in that world.
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DisneyXAnimefan95
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 11:32 am
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| Meongantuk wrote: | | The live action movies are on Netflix, so I doubt the anime wouldn't get licensed. Worse come to worst, it's gonna be Netflix exclusive release like the last two LA movies. |
Even if Netflix has the Live-Action Rurouni Kenshin films (The Beginning and The Final), doesn’t necessarily mean that Netflix will get the license 2023 anime of Rurouni Kenshin, considering it’s the same situation with the Live-Action Bleach film, Netflix has the license to it but they didn’t license the Bleach Thousand Year Blood War anime as Viz Media got the license instead.
Honestly, it all comes down to wether Netflix is that interested in Licensing the 2023 Rorouni Kenshin anime, or let another licensor like Aniplex of America or Crunchyroll get it instead, considering Netflix is more into developing and commissioning their own anime series.
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b-dragon
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Posted: Thu Mar 23, 2023 12:37 pm
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| Megumi Chisato wrote: | | I find issues like these with J. K. Rowling, Ezra Miller, Vic Mignogna, Nobuhiro Nishiwaki, etc... very fascinating from a moral/philosophical standpoint. Beyond the whole separating the artist from their art debate, do criminals deserve fair compensation for their work? What if they've already been charged and reformed? Are we criminals by association if the money we pay to appreciate their work gets appropriated into funding criminal acts? But we didn't specifically pay to enable their criminal behavior. Shouldn't they take full responsibility for what they do with the money that they rightfully earned? Is it our job to play the moral arbiter when it comes to deciding who is worthy of making an honest living? By extension, does this mean that those who accept their money in exchange for food are also enabling their crimes by prolonging their lives?
I don't have a definitive answer to these questions, but I can't help pondering them whenever cases like these pop up (as this kinda hits close to home for personal reasons). Regardless, I'll probably check the series out if I'm able to. Samurai X was one of the few anime I actually watched religiously growing up. |
Yeah, a lot of these are reasonable questions to have and ponder without universally applicable answers. For me, it comes down to priorities- there is a lot wrong with the world and how people are treated in it. I can acknowledge these issues, but don't have the bandwidth to focus on all of them. I have to pick my battles, even as I acknowledge that going through the world incidentally supports practices and behaviors that I don't approve of.
For myself, no. I'll not watch it. I think its a great story, I still enjoy the characters, but I can't support it with what I know about the creator's history. Having said that, I can see why others would come to separate conclusions, and I can- and must- respect that.
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