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GATSU
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But not exclusively Transformers.
So were "Ghost World", "Road to Perdition", and "A History of Violence".
Several factors all tied to that movie.
It will, if the readers who've jumped ship from manga to games decide they have one less reason to read the source material-especially if they were too young to even remember the original show. And if Shueisha's willing to publish those Viz book tie-ins, and those flop, it might hurt the company's respect with consumers.
Not really. X-men almost didn't happen because of B+R. That's a fact. And it got made in a climate in which no one actually believed it would do well, because studios thought comic book movies were over. Thus the only reason FOX financed the project was because of the concessions made by the director. Anyway, back to the topic. Japanese bloggers hate DB: E. Bad translation of this sucker:
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fighterholic
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That's a load of BS. Can you rightfully tell that for sure that people are going to go out there and say that the manga sucks if they watch the movie? Shueisha has a lot more things to worry about than one movie. They're running hundreds of other series included in magazines, and non-manga magazines as well, and you're saying that they're going to be hit financially hard? Your lack of Japanese society makes me cringe even more Though the one thing I can agree with you about the movie is that not too many Japanese people were optimistic about the movie. Every one of my friends that I talked to about the movie said that they either weren't going to watch it or that it was going to flop. HOWEVER, that only accounts for people that I talked that I know personally, you whatever you may use for statistics is not going to count. |
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testorschoice
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No one claimed "exclusively" on Transformers. No one claimed "Ghost World", "Road to Perdition", and "A History of Violence" were not obscure before their movies. No one claimed there weren't factors with Street Fighter movie ties. (The U.S. cartoon even had Street Fighter Alpha ties.) Please stop moving the goalposts.
Fortunately, fighterholic already discredited this.
But. It. Got. Made. Three. Years. Later. Discrediting your original premise. Again, please stop moving the goalposts. |
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GATSU
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fighter:
No, but would be they as motivated to read the manga if the movie sucked?
Considering DB is one of their key titles, they may or may not have projected potentially unrealistic higher sales from the flick; and if that's the case, it could at least hurt their stock value. I don't doubt that's partly what killed Square after "The Spirits Within", anyway. And that company had other franchises in its library, too. testor:
But you said the sales were due to the movie. And yet the articles suggest that sales were higher across the board, thus diminishing TF's direct role in the toy sales. Two can play at your game.
But they were less obscure because of the positive reception for their respective movies, which cannot be said about the Howard the Duck.
Later in the series, probably.
It got made, because there was already money thrown at it. Superman Returns took a decade to get made, though. Spider-Man took five years. Why? Because they were considered risks, due to Batman and Robin. |
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fighterholic
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If people like you keep going on like this then they probably wouldn't be.
PLEASE. One Piece, Bleach, Naruto, NARUTO, pay attention, Reborn, Claymore, Fist of the North Star, Jojo, Hunter x Hunter, and this list can go ON. You still fail to explain to me how Shueisha is still going to hurt by all of this. When it's VIZ MAKING THE FRICKIN' PRODUCTS! Please prove to us the economical ties, with a VALID source, and then we may start believing you. |
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testorschoice
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Please look up what "moving the goalposts" means. And please stop doing it. |
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GATSU
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fighterholic: WB is a friggin' behemoth; and that still didn't stop Superman Returns from screwing up its stock value.
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fighterholic
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I rest my case. |
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GATSU
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Malaysian review, and Korean review, courtesy of IMDB.
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T0FFe3m@n
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Do me a favour - get off your high horse. You haven't even seen the film for gods sake.. |
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fighterholic
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Yeah, they're REVIEWS. You still have not provided any evidence that sales for the manga has gone down or Shueisha has been financially hurt by the release of the movie. |
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Primus
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No one needs to remember the show (I'd also say that isn't very true, since the demo it targeted is probably only around the age of 14 or 15 by now), since the toyline prior to the 2007 movie was the best-selling Transformers toyline of all time. Also, in 2007, Transformers was one of (if not) the best-selling toy brand. The live action movie totally had nothing to do with that. It was just all those Universe, Titaniums, Alternators and left over Cybertron figures that made it that...
Do you just skim through things people read?:
The only thing in print in North America was the G1 movie, and I said, right before 7.4.7 it sold really well. Anyways, it seems many are not liking DragonBall: Evolution. I'll watch it, form my own opnion, and all that jazz. If I like it, I like it (I like the 2008 version of Alone In The Dark afterall), if I don't, I don't (I really don't like Slumdog Millionaire). |
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GATSU
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Primus:
You mean G1? :P
I don't doubt the toys made money, but how much of it was actually from new fans versus old fans? Plus, those suckers probably cost more nowadays than the old ones, since the robots are more complicated. So did that add up to the total revenue at all? In other words, are they making more money than the originals, if you take into account inflation and cost per unit?
It sold well before the movie came out, so that's not that impressive. But if it's out of print, that might have more to do with rights issues and in-fighting than the company being unable to keep up with demand. |
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Keonyn
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Let's try to and stay on topic, shall we? GATSU, seriously, these ridiculous attempts to twist every thread in to your soap box to bash certain nationalities and industries and demonstrate your japanophile tendencies are getting beyond ridiculous.
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Hon'ya-chan
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Theirs a difference between making actual character toys for a glorified toy commercial vs. being a corporate shill and completely ignoring established continuity. |
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