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Funimation Comments on Streaming Metrics in Crunchyroll Press Release

2) Whats this about CR charging people for other peoples fansubs ? I used to watch lots of music videos and concerts on crunchyroll, and a few other shows that I could only find on crunchyroll (the later half of SaiMono2 for example). But you know what I remeber - that I was never charged for anything at anytime. Actually I take that back, I was charged for some DDL, which were Tower of Druaga - which if you recall was through a partnership with GONZO. Legit downloads supporting gonzo.

I do recall they had donations, but in no way was this forced on users. It was optional, though i am sure there were perks for donating.

Dark Elf Warrior wrote:

This is going to sound dumb, but what was the article trying to say? For some reason it made no sense to me. Yet, like someone said, I felt like "Oh snap!" why is that? Can someone fill me in?

It's basically Funi pointing out that Crunchy Roll had their streaming numbers wrong, and that their numbers actually work out to around 55 million. And that's probably not taking into account Funi's revenue streams from TV broadcasts, merchandise and dvd sales.

Think about it: ADV, FUNimation, all the rest: they *had* the resources to expand onto the internet, but they didn't.

The R1 companies are living in a fantasy where "DVD is the primary medium by which people watch anime"

There is money in internet streaming. If you can't make a profit on it YET, its because you don't really seem to be trying hard enough.

the sales from dvds and merchandise might help unfortunately the only TV broadcast funi has now is FMA Brotherhood on AS. they made a big mistake not making an attempt for have it's other series for TV broadcast too cause a lot of them (like Soul Eater & One Piece ) could benefit with a TV release. Especially OP.

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As an aside, __V__, you are 100% wrong about there being significant revenues in streaming. There are revenues, but they're pretty piddly at this point, as we went over recently in ANNCast. I will not repeat myself here.

And it still my opinion that leaving such content up indefinitely damages what is left of the DVD market, giving consumers no real reason to obtain that product if they can get it for free at any time.

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the sales from dvds and merchandise might help unfortunately the only TV broadcast funi has now is FMA Brotherhood on AS. they made a big mistake not making an attempt for have it's other series for TV broadcast too cause a lot of them (like Soul Eater & One Piece ) could benefit with a TV release. Especially OP.

You are assuming that Funimation isn't trying hard to get TV Broadcasts for their titles. Getting something on TV, especially now, is INCREDIBLY HARD and manytimes the only way it can be done is to share the DVD revenues or to actually PAY to get it placed on the air.

I have heard this argument also before, that the Licensees could solve their problems by getting more content on TV, and that it's their fault they haven't done so. There is a limited number of places that will take anime content, and honestly, they are either full up or would prefer something that they can get tie ins to toys and whatnot to get more revenue for themselves. Believe me, any licensee in our market would KILL to get more of their stuff broadcast.

1) Seriously ? Really ? You guys are going to talk smack about CR for posting what they did ? Then you guys must hate EVERYTHING that has ever been put on the market. I see commercials all the time with a company saying "our stuff is way better than so and so".

Also, it would be one thing if a CR rep posted these numbers on a forum or something, but this was a press release, which have a strict format and are expected to have some formality to them. I can guarantee you that if someone at Sony put out a press release that said, "Well, we sold xx number of TVs this quarter, which was way more than Panasonic, who sold xx number," that person would be fired. Companies just do not represent themselves that way.

And it still my opinion that leaving such content up indefinitely damages what is left of the DVD market, giving consumers no real reason to obtain that product if they can get it for free at any time.

Shawne Kleckner

Just now I went to check the first episode of Strike Witches on Funimation's site, and there's no video ad during it for the disc release. To me that seems like an incredible waste of an opportunity to tell me what's on the disc that I'm not getting from the stream and why I should click on the Right Stuf link to the right of the video window.

The streams themselves need ads that push the value of buying the discs; I'm not sure how well they're doing that. Simulcasts by their nature don't fit into that well, but even when I'm watching something on Crunchyroll that's published on disc in the region I live in (determinable from my IP address), I see ads for Skittles and AT&T phones instead of the disc release of the show I'm watching.

sdhd wrote:

To settle the dispute Funimation and Crunchyroll should post their quarterly earnings and give the anime fans to see if it is worth supporting the companies.

Note that this is quite insane. Its "worth supporting Funimation" by watching their streams if you like the shows. Its "worth supporting Crunchyroll" by watching their streams if you like the shows. If you really like a show, tell someone else where to watch the legit stream.

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Maybe the anime fans should just watch fansub. That will solve the problem of ego.

???? Punish the creators to force two companies involved in streaming to settle arguments in forums? That does indeed sound like an ego problem, but not ego at Funimation or Crunchyroll.

First, could someone break down what a "streaming metric" is, exactly? URLs to a site with a explanation is welcomed.

Second, if Funimation would ever get their player to work right with Firefox and/or my IP, and all the other people who have never ending problems with the Funiplayer/site, then they're numbers would most likely go up.