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REVIEW: Kill Me Baby DVD

No, when you toss out blanket accusations and expect anyone to take them seriously, you'd damn well better be able and willing to back them up with evidence. Otherwise you just become one of those irrational "all dubs suck" people whose voice automatically gets filtered out by anyone who actually appreciates dubs.

And you clearly haven't heard this dub, so you're basing your opinion of this dub being a travesty entirely on speculation. Sorry, but that just makes your "stand" a laughingstock.

Shiratori1 wrote:

However, I know crap when I see it, and as such, will not stand for the "product" being put out by that guy (nor will I stay silent on the subject).

Well, "taking a stand" in this case means screaming and crying about it on an internet forum Foster will never read, and even if he did, wouldn't care and nothing would change, so your "taking a stand" and "not staying silent" means literally nothing. You're yelling into a void. But maybe that makes you feel good about yourself, I dunno.

Also, I entirely do "get" your point; I'm just refusing to acknowledge its validity since you won't back it up.

And since you claim you don't care what people think of your opinions (which I doubt, since you're bothering to respond to them individually), then you probably also won't care that I think you're very close to trolling. You're coming into the thread for a series you haven't seen dubbed and making nasty blanket comments that are clearly meant to apply to this dub, too, and basically insulting the intelligence of anyone who thinks differently than you. And if you're not meaning those comments to apply to this dub, then you're off-topic.

dragonrider_cody wrote:

As for Pani Pony Dash, the original Japanese track isn't anything to write home about. I don't particularly care for the dub, but I also see no major issues with it and this is the first time I've seen someone complain about it. Generally, all the comments I've seen about the dub have been pretty positive. It's not a show that I really care for greatly, so I haven't watched it often.

1. If you are going to use the title of a show, spell it correctly.
2. Is your contempt for the original Japanese track based on ACTUALLY seeing the show, or did you just pull that opinion from the ANN review of it.
3. do you really think the "dumb valley girl" voice of dub Himeko (only one of the many terrible voices in that "production is BETTER than the original voice (if so, I suggest you listen to the two voices again)?!
4. The fact that indifference and a lack of care for the show oozes from your comment makes it very difficult for me to actually take your opinion seriously with regards to the show and job that foster did (like you said, you really don't care about the series).

Key wrote:

Also, I entirely do "get" your point; I'm just refusing to acknowledge its validity since you won't back it up.

I already gave you two perfect examples, which you simply dismissed with the justification that you haven't seen them (and you're complaining about me not watching this "work"?) or don't remember them (that's my problem?).

Shiratori1 wrote:

All of the dubs done by Steven Foster that I have had the misfortune of listening to were piles of crap (one of the reasons why I don't watch dubs). People can disagree with me if you want and say that his rewriting, injection of stupid internet jokes into everything that he touches, and his overall screwing around with shows that he didn't make is "good work" (shows how little they care about the show and the people who are responsible for its existence), but I will continue to have my not-too-kind opinions about that individual and question people who actually think that the product that he has produced is quality (respect for the works that he has done? lol).

List what dubs you've heard that he's done. I'd bet money that I can show that you're either engaging in hyperbole or haven't heard his better dubs, because far from all - or even most - of the dubs he's done are like what you describe. And I will continue to have not-too-kind opinions of people who make blanket statements like this and insist that people who don't agree with their opinion are just too lazy to care.

I refuted one (PPD) based on other evidence. How is that dismissing it? And how is admitting that I can't accurately evaluate your claim based on personal experience a dismissal? You're stretching.

And trying to claim that you don't remember very well about the dubs you're criticizing only further weakens the credibility of your blanket statements.

There is a thing called auto correct on smart phones and ANN isn't particularly touch screen friendly. By the time I noticed it had changed Poni to Pony, I had already hit post. It also took me three tries to get it correct there.

Just because I'm not a huge banner waving, cosplay wearing fan of Pani Poni Dash doesn't automatically invalidate my opinion of it. The show is simply okay in my book, though for a comedy series, I never found it particularly funny.

You many not like his dubs for Pani Poni Dash, but that's not going to change anyone else' opinions.

Sorry, but you can't refute that claim simply by saying, "oh, well, another reviewer who isn't me said that it was ok, therefore, your argument on Pani Poni Dash! is invalid." The only "stretch" was that so-called "proof".

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And trying to claim that you don't remember very well about the dubs you're criticizing only further weakens the credibility of your blanket statements.

Where exactly did I say that I don't remember those dubs very well?

I already gave you two perfect examples, which you simply dismissed with the justification that you haven't seen them (and you're complaining about me not watching this "work"?) or don't remember them (that's my problem?).

Your entitled to your own opinion with regards to the show itself (which I also happen to disagree with). However, When you say that you don't care about a show in general and have contempt for it, in my book, that means your opinion has less weight to it than someone who actually liked the show (a person who liked the show to begin with is, in my opinion, more capable of determining if the dub of a series captured the original spirit and intent of the series or not, and as such, has more weight and validity to me from an opinion standpoint). That's just the way that I see things like this.

At the end of the day, just because people have dug in their heels opinion-wise on a subject, doesn't mean that I am forbidden from talking about that subject and voicing my own opinion.

Ah, vituperative posters ragging on Stephen Foster. I haven't had the displeasure of experiencing that in a while.

What I want to know is: Why wasn't Kill Me Baby! Fosterized? This show seemed perfect for being the "next Ghost Stories" but instead Foster didn't really try and we're left with a show that is pretty mediocre in both languages, as far as I'm concerned. I am disappointed.

With the exception of Horizon I haven't heard a recent Foster dub that was truly "Fosterized", to my dismay.

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Just because I'm not a huge banner waving, cosplay wearing fan of Pani Poni Dash doesn't automatically invalidate my opinion of it. The show is simply okay in my book, though for a comedy series, I never found it particularly funny.

Your entitled to your own opinion with regards to the show itself (which I also happen to disagree with). However, When you say that you don't care about a show in general and have contempt for it, in my book, that means your opinion has less weight to it than someone who actually liked the show (a person who liked the show to begin with is, in my opinion, more capable of determining if the dub of a series captured the original spirit and intent of the series or not, and as such, has more weight and validity to me from an opinion standpoint). That's just the way that I see things like this.

If anyone involved in English dubbing @ Sentai and its related companies deserves hate it is the person(s) ultimately responsible for the colossal failing that was the dub of Momo; The God Girl of Death. I don't think that I've ever been so disappointed by a dub before.

Echo_City wrote:

If anyone involved in English dubbing @ Sentai and its related companies deserves hate it is the person(s) ultimately responsible for the colossal failing that was the dub of Momo; The God Girl of Death. I don't think that I've ever been so disappointed by a dub before.

Totally disagree. But that should be brought up in the appropriate review thread, and I will not discuss it further here.