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relyat08
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@mangamuscle I guess I'll just requote this over and over.
I'm sure climate change is a hoax in your world too.
Clearly China doesn't have the most sophisticated taste in anime at this point. Some of the most popular stuff there is literally flopping everywhere else(they seem to really love the battle-action sort of shows, like Bubuki Buranki, and Twin Exorcists[I saw a figure stating 80 million views in China for Exorcists]). I'm sure it'll mature in the coming years though, as their market ages. And yeah, there is still a lot of great stuff coming out. Proportionally, it's probably about the same as it's ever been. |
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Blood-
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The authors of the summary made clear they are not presenting their own research nor are they presenting their own conclusions. They merely reviewed existing studies. Ergo, their summary does not need to be "peer reviewed." Cherry picked?  The post of yours that I originally responded to had the following gem:
As it turns out there are 22 studies that conclude content producers have seen reductions in profit. If you think those 22 studies were "cherry picked" clearly you think there are a whole bunch of studies that concluded otherwise but have not been included in this survey. Please feel free to post links to any studies that conclude that piracy has no impact. Should be no problem, right? After all, those 22 studies were "cherry picked" so there must be a TON of studies that show piracy has no impact.
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yuna49
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I was thinking about the 2013 report from the Media Development Research Institute that was cited here last year. In that report total revenues include "both Japanese animated works and foreign animated works that were sold or distributed within Japan. The results include theatrical animation, home video sales and rental for animation, television animation, and online distribution." So in that report box-office and home-video revenues from movies like Frozen were included in the total. Now having compared to the two reports, I'm struck by the enormous difference between them. The MDRI report estimated the "market for domestic and foreign animation in Japan reached 242.8 billion yen (about US$2.03 billion) over the course of the year 2013." That's only about eleven percent of the $18 billion figure cited in this report. If the market for animation in Japan is about $2 billion, does that mean the additional $16 billion in the AJA report represents foreign earnings? That seems highly implausible to me. It might include things like animations used in television commercials, but again it's hard to see how that could boost the total by $16 billion. Can someone here, Justin perhaps, help explain this enormous discrepancy? |
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Moroboshi-san
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AJA report contains also revenue from merchandise, overseas licensing, pachinko machines, etc which came in 2013 to around 1'200 Byen which pretty much exactly covers the difference between the reports (AJA in 2013 ended up to little bit less than 1'500 Byen). |
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Blanchimont
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Pretty much what we already know(or should know, some refuse to accept it...). Anime is only a small part if merchandise is taken into account. Did the AJA report specify how the $16 billion was divided between the categories, merchandise, licensing, etc? |
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mangamuscle
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Yeah, I will repeat it, cherry picked summary, You can cherry pick sentences from papers talking about the existence of climate change to DENY climate change. You talk like you have read said 22 studies but you are merely copy/pasting cherry picked sentences from a propaganda website that you google in a few seconds by your own admission. Why 22 studies when you could use one to say, hey, here is the proof, because not one of those provides definitive proof, that is why. |
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Blood-
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Why would I take the time to track down one of those 22, read it completely, quote directly from it when you will simply find some absolutely lame reason to dismiss it? I could do the same with the other 21 and you would do the same for all 22. As I said earlier, there is absolutely nothing that would convince you of your completely erroneous and illogical belief that piracy has no impact on the revenue of content providers. I understand your mindset, totally. It's shared by other entitled fans who want to bury their heads in the sand and pretend that using illegal methods to view content has zero impact on the relevant industries. But that's fine, there are more reasonable readers here who get it. |
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Untilidie3
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so please forgive me if I'm wrong but 1.83 trillion yen is not 18.1 billion USD. How did we do that math? I'm trying to write about this topic and I want to make sure all of my numbers add up correctly. My thought is that there might have been a translation error or I'm wrong in my thought process. If someone could shed some more light on the issue that would be awesome.
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Megiddo
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Google can do simple currency conversion, though please note that this article is months old and currency exchange rates can shift a good deal over that time.
By today's exchange rate, 1.83 trilion yen is closer to 16.03 billion USD according to Google. The easiest (though by no means precise) way to convert yen to USD is to think of yen as cents and not dollars. So just chop off the last two zeroes. Thus 1.83 trillion yen can be approximated by 18.3 billion USD. |
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yuna49
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The dollar has substantially appreciated against the yen since the 2016 election. See the chart here: http://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=JPY&view=10Y
A dollar today buys about 114 yen; in early November, that figure was about 104. This trend makes Japanese automakers happy and angers the American president. |
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Untilidie3
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thank you yuna49 Megiddo for your response!
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Jose Cruz
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Would be interesting to see whats the share of overseas-category and is its broke down by region.  Apparently, the vast increase in Crunchyroll subscribers in the last couple of years from ca. 440,000 in late 2014 to 1 million now didn't even show up in that report. Well, their streaming revenues is only worth about 8 billion yen compared to the 1,800 billion yen of the industry although I wonder if that's revenue or "market value".
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