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SHD
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It works for its intended purposes, I was just pointing out that the nickname has in fact nothing to do with light or any juxtaposition to darkness or shadows. It just means they take her for an annoying weirdo. It is a jab, there's a reasony why the characters who are friendly toward her don't use it. |
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Princess_Irene
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It still works with MacDonald's The Light Princess, though, because people in the book see the Princess as silly and frivolous, which I'd say is similar to how Emilico is viewed by others. |
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Gina Szanboti
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Is it just me, or did that side-eye Rum gave Emilico after they all vowed to meet up again seem kinda sinister? I guess she could've been giving her a covert look of longing, but the total lack of even a trace of a smile was concerning.
Ah well, when in doubt, have an orange! They're chock full of Vitamin P (plot-point)! |
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Hiroki not Takuya
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It's hard not to be worried for Shirley/Rum and that look says Rum is convinced they won't make it in the debut. Also, I am surprised no one is reacting to the implications at 4:03 in Ep7 relative to what we can see at 23:07 in the ED but that little behavior from Lou belies sexual abuse...
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Yuvelir
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I came to comment on the "Sunshine" thing but it was done already. Just keep in mind the original nickname that Barbie gave her as it's being used as a strong and empowering motiff.
When reading the manga those "elite four" adults always seemed threatening, as they should be, but now that they have voices I've come to realize how goofy they are. On one side of the table you have a histrionic sadist and an over-excited... shadow. On the other side, two people so serious and deadpan that they don't understand the concepts of "joking" or "hypothetical" but that nonetheless wear the most extravagant and silly clothes we have seen so far (just look at the sheer size of that thing Joseph has hanging on his neck and shoulders).
Nothing wrong with a girl looking at her face very very closely! |
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Hiroki not Takuya
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Well, there is close and then, as in this Ep, there is Edward-close Quite a special relationship indeed...The music and visuals behind the closing credits were a superb touch and interesting story.
Edit Referencing Below: Oh, I think of lots of unnecessary things and I also caught that little tidbit from Edward. Rewatched Ep1 for the dub and this show has so many details and so many are not unnecessary, recommend everyone do a revisit. Really a delight for this season... Last edited by Hiroki not Takuya on Sat May 29, 2021 10:06 pm; edited 3 times in total |
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Yuvelir
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(Once again, I'll be liberal with the use of spoilers. Nothing in my post is an actual spoiler but it might prompt someone to think unnecessary things)
That was a heavy revelation at the end, eh? Did any of you wonder why spoiler[the name of this living doll was Edward, not Ed, Edd or Eddie]? And boy, I love how the anime has portrayed how extra and self-centered Edward is, even hijacking the ED with he, him, his and himself. Some detail about translations, not really from this one but a previous episode. Take a look at Edward checking the profiles in this episode, and listen to the one he says WILL be the one to fail the debut, what traits did he highlight about them? spoiler[Now think back to a previous scene, when he was escorting the shadows, he was furious because his plans went off-track: he wanted to fail a specific person right there and then, but because of Emilyko and Ricky it was no longer possible. The voice acting didn't specify the person, but Funi's subs assumed it was Kate and went with her. Now, do those highlighted traits from before fit Kate?] Ram seems so subdued, but she was ruthless witht hat car. As for Emilyko, damn the girl works fast adding all those flowers to the makeshift apron in what must be just a couple of minutes. And I'm glad that Sakura Ayane is nailing Louise's every line otherwise spoiler[the personality behind those harsh words is easy to misunderstand. She's no Sara.] |
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SHD
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I have to say, I really hate this trend in anime subs where a character will use "them" to refer to another character whose gender they're perfectly aware of, just because the audience is not supposed to know yet. 99% of the time the gender itself it's not a surprise anyway, but if you do want to keep it a surprise then find a way around using pronouns, damn it. Yes, it's potentially going to be clunky, but not as clunky as someone looking at a picture of a character that he knows is a girl talking like he doesn't know if it's a girl or not, for no particular reason. (Disclaimer: no, I've no problems with "them" as a gender neutral pronoun, I'm more than fine with people using it for themselves, gender is complicated, and all that and more, we all know that's not what I'm talking about here.)
Anyway, re: the spoilers above, not paying much attention to the subs I always thought Edward was planning to fail Shirley and I still think so, I mean all his actions seem to point in that direction. I guess we'll find out in the next episode. But since his motivation to fail someone doesn't seem to be personal (previously he mentioned that since he's also being tested he pretty much has to fail someone otherwise he'll come off as not invested enough, and Shirley was the most obvious target), honestly I'm more interested in just who exactly he is and what's the entire point of this game. Entertaining the lords & ladies, sure, but other than that? What happens to a shadow when they fail? (What are the shadows anyway? They clearly have solid physical bodies but are they completely made of soot that can be molded in whatever way they want, or is there something human/humanoid underneath? etc.) |
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Hiroki not Takuya
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To be sure, no shortage of mysteries here that I can't wait to see "solved" too! Like, why was Kate was supposed to made to fail and why and who would want that? Why is soot production an important quantifier and is there a link between the "star bearer" master being a favorite and her prodigious soot production seen in Ep1? How do shadows reproduce
 ? What is this "soot" besides a metaphor? Like the soot, mysteries keep "piling up"...
To Below- Yeah, I didn't listen closely enough to the dialog and you had caught it first. The line was "Kate no ikita ningyo" and was in the second sentence. Last edited by Hiroki not Takuya on Mon May 31, 2021 5:21 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Yuvelir
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That was already partially answered spoiler[she wasn't. Funimation's translators assumed a name when Edward was being vague and they assumed wrong] |
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SaneSavantElla
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"It should have been a piece of cake. This pair can fail... no, I have to fail them! But then Kate's doll got them all fired up. On top of that, Patrick and his doll started dancing when I played the piano to calm myself! Because of that, those two has become closer, making it harder to eliminate them!" Well in hindsight, the mistranslation is not only a matter of misinterpretation (which to be fair, is really easy to make unless you have knowledge of the source material) but seems to be a grammatical one as well because they translated the bolded item above as "But I got her doll all fired up". Even without prior knowledge that Edward is targeting someone else, this part should have translated to "Kate's doll got <somebody> all fired up" because the sentence structure suggests Emilico is the one doing the action, not Edward. I don't suppose official subbers use fan-translated material as reference; they either aren't allowed professionally or simply don't have time to look for the exact chapter they need (if it exists at all) |
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Yuvelir
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Reading this episode review has been funny, there are some musings that land pretty close to actual hints and events in the manga. Now then, what might those specific musings be?
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Hiroki not Takuya
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I was wondering why Emilico didn't just have Kate jump into the cart but I guess that wouldn't have been so "thrilling"...Emilico wasn't born brilliant (a lie) but apparently she was born an gymnast...And what a reveal about the shadows and faces (does Sophie happen when they french-kiss? Look out Lou...)! I think Grandfather sees how Kate will fare and it's not how the rest think, Kate and Emilico have gotten lots closer emotionally. The truly difficult time Edward has ahead is sorting out how all the contestants have gotten much closer, shadow-shadow and face-face relationships included. This show has me hooked like nothing else and I can't wait for next week.
BTW, for those interested, the shadow written language is "freaked out" hiragana. The key is at Ep2 21:00 
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Yuvelir
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In the manga, Gramps' speech bubbles were made of soot. So having him own such a... mundane voice was quite a surprise
And here it is, the infamous JOHN PUNCH (isn't he a great boy?) and the confirmation of what adults are (and they keep getting goofier). Oh, and if you found it odd that the cart wasn't supposed to be anywhere close when they jumped inside, it's because they skipped a single panel of Emi raming the trees with the cart (for no apparent reason since she was already using the shears). And in today's "Funimation gets the subject wrong again", a very minor case. Around 1:25, Joseph says "It will be hard for him to judge swiftly". What Joseph is actually saying is that HE, Joseph, can't judge Edward's spectacle of a debut yet. This case is specially silly (if unimportant) because Joseph refers to himself by name. So the translators heard "Joseph" and somehow understood "Edward". |
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Hiroki not Takuya
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^What, are they getting fan-subbers from the internet now? John must be made of Black Powder (so that's why his "soot" looks like sparks)...Also, Edward has spies on the third floor...
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