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Malintex Terek
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:28 pm Reply with quote
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It is funny tho With the age group Adult Swim is meant for Kiddy grade would be prefect for it (so would toonami but toonami has fallen over the past 2-3 years I wonder when they even need miguzy ><),hell any show with light non nude Fan service would be good for Adult Swim if it kept with the basics of the rest of the shows havening enough action to keep people watching ect,ect,ect most Ecchi(perverted) Anime is rather mindless a few good shows like Hand maid may(hand maid mai is to odd and is unfinished),Hanyokyuo maids,MahoruMatic would also be good enough for Adult swim ,altho I would not call Kiddy Grade and Mai Hime/Otome Ecchi I would call it action with light fan service she seems to think all fan service of any kind is wrong and foolishly hates the show never seeing it and I bet if CN never showed Tenchi she would turn it down because its to ecchi for her....she reminds me of Condoleeza rice she doesn't have a clue as to watch she is doing half the time ><
I still think Kiddy Grade,Mai Hime/Otome,Solty rei (I refuse to recognize the domestic name of it),

I should make this my sig

Dubing/Translation Accuracy/Voice acting

One piece 30 %
Naruto 70ish %
Scyred 80 %
Inu Yasha 80ish %
Cowboy Bebop 100%
Ranma 1/2 200%


About ranma percentage lets face it now a days dubbing is a after thought but in the day some companies went above and beyond "simple" translation ,Ranma 1/2 goes beyond 120 which is the normal phrase of going beyond 100% by the time you add up translation,voice acting and song translation what other 30 + ep show with 10 or so OVAs has been do so well leavening nothing undone?
I use Ranma as a example of going beyond and Cowboy Bebop as an example of great translation.
BTW the ish means that some eps are better handled than others.
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Sex sells. Adult Swim would indeed rake in a large number of viewers if it increased the amout of fanservice in its shows, but keep in mind that America isn't Japan; we're obsessed over political correctness and there's a huge feminist movement here. Not to be a chauvinist, but Kim Manning's position on fanservice just makes her a bigot; obviously, there's got to be some limit to how far we can push moral standards, but taking fanservice this far just promotes jingoism.

On the Ranma 1/2 rating, I agree; dubbing Ranma so well, an unedited, for its time was incredible. You should really raise Naruto's percentage, though; it's a serialized show on a formerly young adult network that now focuses on tweens, yet still holds nearly all of the blood and mature themes intact. I do not think Ranma ever graced the airwaves in such a manner; I'm not even sure if Ranma ever aired at all.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:09 pm Reply with quote
Malintex Terek wrote:
Sex sells. Adult Swim would indeed rake in a large number of viewers if it increased the amout of fanservice in its shows


Sex sells, but i don't think Americans will buy into cartoon sex as easily. That's more pathetic than it is hot.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:16 pm Reply with quote
[EDIT: Oops, nevermind. Sorry 'bout that. -Nagi]
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:17 pm Reply with quote
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Studio Pierott own Bleach and will sell it to the highest bidder. This "Viz get all things Shueisha" crap is gettin' old real fast!


I don't know about all the licensing technicalities and such but seeing as I've heard two staff members here say that Viz already owns Bleach, I'm more inclined to believe them then someone who thinks that Gantz is for children. Just seems like the more logical choice to me.



Japan is the country that shown Son Goku standing naked in the middle of a city scratching his dong and called it a kid's show, therefore anything that happened on episodes 1 and 6 of Gantz is seen no differently.If GANTZ wasn't for kids then why was it edited when it aired in Japan? Unless the Admins and mods on this site work for VIZ (and they don't) then they know no more about who owns BLEACH then your dad. Just like in an auction BLEACH will go to the highest bidder and let me remind you that FUNimation has made millions off of the Elric brother's.
Though VIZ will make a crap load of money off of Naruto,FMA has been on way longer on CN than Naruto.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:21 pm Reply with quote
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Sex sells, but i don't think Americans will buy into cartoon sex as easily. That's more pathetic than it is hot.[/quote]

One of my friends said it best; "Anime can accomplish what live-action cannot".

There are bajillions of fetishes that percolate in the minds of virile young adult males; ecchi material, not necessarily hentai, can help satisfy those urges. Assuredly, Japan's stance toward sex in the media is a tad more liberal than the rest of the world, laissez faire in comparison to America; however, men in Japan and men in America are still fundamentally the same.

Not that I'm calling for rampant nudity and sexual encounters on adult swim, but we should remember that dudes are more inclined to think with their little brain rather than their big brain; eye-candy could only boost late night attendance. 'tis why websites like "ratemyprofessor" exist.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:24 pm Reply with quote
emory wrote:
Malintex Terek wrote:
Sex sells. Adult Swim would indeed rake in a large number of viewers if it increased the amout of fanservice in its shows


Sex sells, but i don't think Americans will buy into cartoon sex as easily. That's more pathetic than it is hot.


first off its not cartoon...secondly at least Hentai has plot and story's(al be it mind numbing and solemnities WTF story's...I no longer watch hentai that I have not researched I do not like "surprises" in hentai >> altho after chrono crusade I do not buy anime I have not seen either.....) hentai is better and no crappy dry humping like porn ...hell Anime is 100 times more sexy and interesting than anything porn or Hollywood could dream of both are stuck in a shallow world without light..and Anime,ecchi,hentai might be to far on the other side with so much light it blinds its creators sometimes *L* oh well cant win for trying ^^
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 5:33 pm Reply with quote
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Like I keep telling my friends who dont understnad japan or anime

I use the moive rateigngs to make them understand the the diffrenaces in morles and culture

japan is PG13 the US is G


hell I might have to up the antiy and say japan is R rated *L*

meaning they are human and dont try to protect their kids from ever lil bit of real life >> the US is so PC and so obsessed with not offening anyone thye wind up offending everyone with mindlessness.......
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:02 pm Reply with quote
Malintex Terek wrote:
emory wrote:

Sex sells, but i don't think Americans will buy into cartoon sex as easily. That's more pathetic than it is hot.


One of my friends said it best; "Anime can accomplish what live-action cannot".

There are bajillions of fetishes that percolate in the minds of virile young adult males; ecchi material, not necessarily hentai, can help satisfy those urges. Assuredly, Japan's stance toward sex in the media is a tad more liberal than the rest of the world, laissez faire in comparison to America; however, men in Japan and men in America are still fundamentally the same.

Not that I'm calling for rampant nudity and sexual encounters on adult swim, but we should remember that dudes are more inclined to think with their little brain rather than their big brain; eye-candy could only boost late night attendance. 'tis why websites like "ratemyprofessor" exist.


But CN is not the place for it. It is a mainstream channel and Adult Swim does not show adult material. If people want to satisfy their fetishes, etc., then they can rent it, download, buy it or go to an adult channel and pay for it. The rest of America does not need to be exposed to it.

@SaveOnePiece: Gantz would not be considered a kids program in Japan or US. spoiler[Attempted rape, sexual activity, murder, bestiality and accidental death via train impact just aren't children issues.] In fact, when shown in Japan @2:28AM on Fuji TV (note: this is not a timeslot for kids but an adult timeslot), Gantz was grossly edited I think to the point that the edits equaled 1-2 full episode of footage. Edits were prob because the series exceeded the networks standards.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:32 pm Reply with quote
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But CN is not the place for it. It is a mainstream channel and Adult Swim does not show adult material. If people want to satisfy their fetishes, etc., then they can rent it, download, buy it or go to an adult channel and pay for it. The rest of America does not need to be exposed to it.
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Let me clarify; "sex sells" does not imply the act, simply usage of "sex appeal" that we see in advertising; commercials, billboards, and in movies. Using females to sell products is a winning strategy; there's no reason why fanservice, which helps "sell" a show, could not be used in the same way. While I hold my own dispositions against such suggestive media, I cannot deny that such practices are effective.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:07 pm Reply with quote
@Malintex Terek: CN is a mainstream channel. No matter how you look at it, they can only show so much before the complaints come in. CN does not have to cater to overt fanservice to increase viewership. There are plenty of popular titles that they can use that does not have alot of fanservice. For the overt fanservice, people should watch DVD releases.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:36 pm Reply with quote
I am just glad she didn't reject my proposal for marriage in front of ALL THE INTERNET!

I hope they managed to scrape up some more support on the anime side...


AND FOR THE LOVE OF JESUS BRING PARANIOA AGENT BACK!


fawhoooosh!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:50 pm Reply with quote
Tell me whats overt about Kiddy grade its about as overt as tenchi minus the romance....hell its not even as ecchi as tenchi 0-o

Yu ahve a point on CN being a mainstream channel and focuseing on "mainstream" shows but then EVA is not a mainstream channel show its dumb gore anime Kiddy grade is ahell of alot better...tick tick tick....damn rant mode wont go away *L*
Like I ahve said befor Kiddy grade would be perfect for Adult Swim its not overly gorey or overly fan serivce,the more and mroe I here about her desisions tho the more I am annoy it sounds like she would have denied SSailor Moon if it came across her desk becuse it seems like fan serivce anime >>
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:53 pm Reply with quote
Fire Kim Manning. That'll help.

Adult Swim has every right to promote themselves as balanced without making every single show a fanservice fest.

But when you can't air ANY shows with more than a set quota of fanservice because of personal bias, well...that's when it's time to pack your bags and move on.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 2:32 am Reply with quote
hikaru004 wrote:
@Malintex Terek: CN is a mainstream channel. No matter how you look at it, they can only show so much before the complaints come in. CN does not have to cater to overt fanservice to increase viewership. There are plenty of popular titles that they can use that does not have alot of fanservice. For the overt fanservice, people should watch DVD releases.


It's not like we're trying to get Green Green or Romance of the Three Kingdoms shown on Adult Swim, but something a *tad* more mild like Kiddy Grade or perhaps Burst Angel. While CN currently does not cater to fanservice, there's no denying that adding some in would increase attendance.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 04, 2006 3:34 am Reply with quote
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Yeah, I've heard it frequently said that she'll never allow anything with a very high fan-service quotient on AS--so you won't ever see a lot of blatant jiggling going on. It's totally her call on the matter.


So thankfully we won't have crap like Agent Aika, Najica, or (God forbid) Eiken on [as]. I gotta admit, she has good taste.


Yeah, but then again, I don't recall Burst Angel selling itself on fanservice. Meg is the only one outta the three that has any cleavage to speak of. Or Gunslinger Girl selling itself on the lolicon factor.

Plus the shows you mentioned only appeal to a select fanbase.
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