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EP. REVIEW: Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid S

I think they're suggesting the possibility that Kobayashi was fully changed into a biological male, not just in regards to her genitals, but her whole body. Which, frankly, is something I'd want to know as well (because I haven't watched it lmao) . Is it a full gender-bender situation, or is she literally just getting a dick attached to her otherwise entirely female body?

That's the point of the joke, Kobayashi becomes BIOLOGICAL a male, but since she have an androgynous look, her body looks the same don't matter her transformation. It's a complete genderbender, it have NOTHING to do with trans people. Just a classic genderbender joke trying to hide what happened to her.

As has already been pointed out several times, even if that is the case it’s still a joke that sucks for trans people, and honestly cis people as well. It’s kind of amazing how many people are taking umbrage that a “Classic genderbending joke” got called gender essentialist when that’s the entire premise of It. That’s not a defense of it. That’s why it sucks. It’s a shitty gag that relies on penis = man = uncontrollably horny. It’s an outdated view that misaligns all kinds of people, and doesn’t add anything positive to the characterization in the show on top of that.

It’s a shitty gag that relies on penis = man = uncontrollably horny.

When MAPPA abuses their employees, their works are praised by your writers. When Uzumaid or some other vile show comes around you guys will just get that Theron Martin guy to give a gentle weekly analysis of the pedo characters adventures around small children. But a studio emerges from the worst massacre in post war Japanese history while still maintaining a healthy work environment, that's when you guys decide we need a reviewer that's gonna put the show in its place?

Whether Lynzee now or Zac and Jacob in the past, ANN's editors have never, ever given directives to reviewers about how episode or full reviews should be done, especially what topics should or shouldn't be focused on. That's all on the individual reviewers.

then you could at least pick a reviewer that's more representative of the target audience, especially since this is already the second season.

Seriously, if they're making comments like "For the mainstream audience, or anyone otherwise not interested in fanservice that involves creeping on kid characters" they're just not the right reviewer for Dragon Maid.

I guess you would avoid shows like Ranma 1/2 then, because this is just a classic genderbender jokes. The plot twist is that usually the boy/girl turned into the opposite gender tends to hide their identity tricking the rest that he/she is another person, while Kobayashi can't do it since she looks the same not matter the body change.

As I said, a male body have biologically a higher sex drive due the tetosterone and the issue that they can't hide their erections once it appears. There's nothing wrong about that, it's just biology. Kobayashi was trying to hide what happened to her in order to avoid Thooru trying to take advantage of her male libido, and she was right since once Tooru realized about that she drugs Kobayashi with a love potion.

I don't fully understand the issue people have with Ilulu. She is canonically around the same age as Tohru as Tohru mentions in ep 2, so she isn't a child like Kanna. She doesn't have large breasts just to have large breasts, she can't fully control herself and that carries through into her human form of her body. Hence why she couldn't procure proper human hands as well.

MetaSoshi9 wrote:

I don't fully understand the issue people have with Ilulu. She is canonically around the same age as Tohru as Tohru mentions in ep 2, so she isn't a child like Kanna. She doesn't have large breasts just to have large breasts, she can't fully control herself and that carries through into her human form of her body. Hence why she couldn't procure proper human hands as well.

She's got hands down by episode 3. Do you think she'll learn to contain her boobs to human proportions before the end of the series? I think we all know the answer to that.

Just because a writer devises an explanation to handwave the things they want to put in a story (say, like huge boobs) doesn't mean that those things had to be that way in the story for it to work. Explaining problematic elements in-universe doesn't make them no longer problematic (if they were ever problematic for you in the first place, which they may not have been). If it did, we'd see hentai in early evening children's programming with the explanation that that's just how the characters in this world say hello. "Ah! It was explained! Well no problem then."

theblasblas wrote:

then you could at least pick a reviewer that's more representative of the target audience, especially since this is already the second season.

We always pick reviewers who will give a show a fair shake. Even if they are huge fans of the show, they must be able to point out its shortcomings. A reviewer who is going to do nothing but gush over a show isn't the kind we hire. Lynzee is reviewing Miss Kobayashi's Dragon Maid because she is a big fan of the first series, but still recognizes its flaws. In this way, she is the perfect reviewer for the show.

Christopher Macdonald

Saying Dragon Maid is just "a fanservice show" is doing it a great disservice to the heart it has and the strength of its writing and characters.

AnimeFlyz wrote:

Why did I instantly know that that Youtube link was gonna be to a Noralities video? Yeah, I have already watched her content, and most of it is crap with bad research and extremely far reaching claims. Some of which are extremely offensive.

I'm not saying she's a great analyst, I'm saying this random Tumblr user still has more observational skill than people who convinced themselves S1 wasn't full of loli sexualization.