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ConanSan
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Cryssoberyl
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The people whose reaction is "this is just an age restriction, slap an 18+ sticker on and call it a day" do not understand how the distinction works in Japan and how it affects the marketability of a product.
In Japan, there is only "general audience" and "adults only", and "adults only" works are, for most distributors, untouchable. Those 18+ stickers you want might as well be nuclear radiation warnings. In Japan, "adults only" anime is not shown on TV. On any channel. Ever. No matter how violent or racy it may have seemed to you, no anime ever shown on Japanese television was officially designated as 18+. In Japan, "adults only" manga are not sold in most book stores (both online and brick-and-mortar). As has been stated, 18+ manga works are almost always produced as magazines and anthologies, almost never as stand-alone tankoubon. The results from this should be obvious. The marketability, and thus profitability, of "adults only" works are extremely limited. Publishing companies will not risk time, money, and effort on creating works that may be judged as such, and thus have their profit potential destroyed by the inaccessibility that comes with it. They will be forced to restrict themselves to works that they can safely market within the "general audience" sphere. This is not an age restriction. It is censorship by way of enforceable lack of profitability - either you toe the line, or they make your stuff unsellable. Last edited by Cryssoberyl on Thu Dec 16, 2010 1:49 am; edited 3 times in total |
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Ghidra999
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This is utter balonga. Child on child sex happens because of something called genes that created the human race. Sexual instinct comes well before sexual maturity as any pediatrician who isn't a total religous hack would tell you. And children should not be having sex, and there are good reasons for that. However, to blame this on movies and other things is utterly ridiculous. I've wanted to have sex since I was 4 years old and was only watching Sesemea Street and Mr. Roger's Neightborhood. Stop being so naive and wake up. |
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Jedi Master
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If the publishers band together and slap those stickers on *everything* regardless of the content, then the distributors, tv stations, and retailers will have to either start carrying 18+ content or have no content. I may be misunderstanding this, but is the only real punishment for violating this law having your company put on the "humiliation list"? If *every* publisher winds up on the list, does the list retain any meaning? |
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ayashe
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And the Japanese wonder why nobody is having children. They're some of the most prudish, anti-sex people there are, which is probably why there's so much hentai and ecchi - repressed people rebelling. I really don't like the Japanese, in fact, sometimes I hate them. I love anime and manga, and the country is beautiful, but they're freaking idiots a lot of the time, much like the know-it-all Japanophiles on here. The idiots who throw around the term weeaboo are usually the most psycho Japan fans there are. OMG teh JAPAM! teh culture! I noes everythng abut it!! u a weeaboo because u liek anime but noes noting about JAPAN! like I do Sorry, idiots, but shockingly most foreigners who watch anime and read manga know that life in Japan it isn't exactly how it's portrayed in manga (it'd really be chaotic with all those mecha, monsters, alien girls running around), and do know things about the culture and country, and certainly don't worship it. I know you'd like to believe that, because it makes you feel like all smart and superior, but that's not the case. Quit projecting and get over yourselves.
As for you real anime fans, and my repressed comrades in Japan, keep rebelling, don't let this trash win! I'll hop in my Knightmare frame and head over there to help. Who's with me? Last edited by ayashe on Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:12 am; edited 2 times in total |
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Cryssoberyl
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I don't know enough about the legal specifics of "adults only" content regulation to give a meaningful answer, but I think it can be assumed that there are mandates as to where and how it can be distributed that factor into the situation. Distributors may have limited legal recourse to carry 18+ products even if they were prepared to shoulder the stigma of doing so. |
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TsukasaHiiragi
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The sad fact is their video games industry is also failing and this bill is another nail in the proverbial financial coffin. What does really get me though is the government is starting to show signs of totalitarianism again just like it was before WW2, and that is a scary thought really.
Personally, I think its a good move to restrict extreme sexual content especially child pornography even if its in animated form, however outright what this bill does goes way beyond that and opens the path for future amendments which could effect even non-sexual anime/manga, could this be the possible end of high-school anime? |
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GrilledEelHamatsu
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Your assuming that all titles and content means "Adults only" and that anything slapped with a label is for mature people only. Thats not nessarily true. There's plenty of games and content with labels on them that aren't considered adult. Think about all the SEGA Saturn games that had yellow "18+" stickers on them. The only ones that were restricted were the ones that had red stickers on them. |
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cff13
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As much as I hate government regulation , which is why I'm against the bill , I'm interested to see what happens . In some ways I was for the bill because I thought that it's existence at the very least represented the Anime and Manga industry's unwillingness to accept any critique (or open discussion) on erotica or their inability to express sexual themes in no other way other than misusing erotica . I really wanted this matter to be settled without government interference and thought the open discussions created by the ban among developers was a good sign , but it didn't stop the bill . Maybe the bill will get the ball rolling on criticism on erotica , it won't however extinguish creativity as some would think .
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vashna
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One thing I haven't seen anyone mention is the sale of used goods. I'm under the impression that current collections could, of course, never be searched. Therefore, are citizens of the Tokyo Metro allowed unrestricted purchased of used goods?
Also, many people have mentioned doujinshi works. I'm confused as to how this law could even regulate such. |
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Banken
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This statement makes me thing you've never been to Japan. You can buy adult manga volumes in convenience stores, right next to the regular manga. |
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Kyaa the Catlord
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Yeah, I was shocked by how incorrect her entire post was.... I'm trying hard to bite my tongue in this thread today. Trying! |
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Cryssoberyl
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From Mr. Kanemitsu's blog:
Perhaps I should've clarified that what I described as "adults only" for simplicity is the legal classification of "harmful material". I had thought this would be evident, but that was my error, and I apologize for it and any other misconceptions. |
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taster of pork
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Found a good news video on this Bill.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_UP5HzhMJs&feature=sub |
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KLAC
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hmm well IF this goes way to far i'm assume most anime will going a NEXUS-attack http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA-271GIsZU on it.
really IF this means to "screw" the anime world uh-oh yikes anime fans going riot, protest, chaos, mayhem, NEXUS, etc for their animes. |
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