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FtKaru



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:43 pm Reply with quote
Alabaster Spectrum wrote:
Anime fanbase is full of some of the most loudmouth not-so-nice-people out there that are going to do whatever the fudge they want. You can ask as nicely and politely as you want to not do certain things with your IP designed primarily to be a family friendly mascot for school textbooks and they'll just flip their shit and probably do it even more just to spite you.

That sums up pretty much every fanbase ever, not just anime.
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Hoppy800



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:10 pm Reply with quote
This is NOT how you handle the situation, never resort to corporate tyranny like this, it will not end well. The streisand effect destroys people and companies fast.
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Fenrin



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:24 pm Reply with quote
It doesn't look like they actually care, just that they're obliged to do something to appease all the apparent complaints they're getting.
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fathergoat



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:29 pm Reply with quote
meiam wrote:
*a little porn*

Company : "guys please stop"

*SO MUUUUUUUUUUCH PORN!*(and the really hardcore, psychologically scarring type too)


This is exactly how internets work.
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maximilianjenus



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:31 pm Reply with quote
there's already some stuff that would land her to jail if she was real; and she already got a second job at lawson along kashima anyway.
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Heishi



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:43 pm Reply with quote
Awww, that's no fun!
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Apollo-kun



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:52 pm Reply with quote
Alabaster Spectrum wrote:
Yeah good luck with that. Anime fanbase is full of some of the most loudmouth not-so-nice-people out there that are going to do whatever the fudge they want. You can ask as nicely and politely as you want to not do certain things with your IP designed primarily to be a family friendly mascot for school textbooks and they'll just flip their shit and probably do it even more just to spite you. Zero respect for anybody or anything.
Agreed. "You asking me to not draw porn of your character is CeNsOrShIp!" *furiously draws heinous porn of them* "Sure showed you!"

That's something I've literally seen happen. Pretty ridiculous imo and patently immature.
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firedragon54738



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:56 pm Reply with quote
Well if they didn't want fan art they shouldnt have made her in the frist place
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Mr. Oshawott



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 4:58 pm Reply with quote
As much as I don't want Rule 34 to happen to Ellen Baker, pornographic images of a character are bound to happen when any character achieves high popularity.
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GEO9875



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:04 pm Reply with quote
I know this is unpopular but i approve of this, fan art is fine but when fan arts starts to turn into porn that's just wrong imo, especially when the original character came from an Innocent english textbook.

I also for one wouldn't mind if porn parody's were illegal but that's just me, i know is not gonna happend/stop but neither is world peace but hey, one can dream.
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Nonaka Machine Gun B



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:45 pm Reply with quote
I get where they're coming from. It's kind of like My Little Pony; its target audience(young girls) can't look up information about it online without getting brony'd to death. This seems (slightly)more innocent, though.

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ARC-1300



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:44 pm Reply with quote
they have basically damned themselves to that fate now.if they haven't already been doing that (and they have) they certainly will now.
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leafy sea dragon



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 6:51 pm Reply with quote
Heh, if you read the statement from the publisher first, it makes the statement from the artist sound like he was given orders to say something about Ms. Baker's popularity.

Silver4000 wrote:
I do understand from where he's coming from. Seeing your creation being rule 34'd is something that most people wouldn't want to see.


Maybe I'm just weird, but the way I see it, your character's become truly notable if there is porn of him or her out there. Well, porn drawn by a competent illustrator, at least.

FtKaru wrote:
That sums up pretty much every fanbase ever, not just anime.


Depends on the fanbase. A sufficiently small one cannot afford to have these not-so-nice people or else the fanbase will fall apart. One that comprises mostly of middle-aged and elderly people are almost always quite civil as well, as they've had time to mellow out. And a fanbase for a new thing hasn't had time to break into loud hostility just yet.

Apollo-kun wrote:
Agreed. "You asking me to not draw porn of your character is CeNsOrShIp!" *furiously draws heinous porn of them* "Sure showed you!"

That's something I've literally seen happen. Pretty ridiculous imo and patently immature.


Though not porn-related, it still doesn't hold a candle to the most mismanaged fan-rage event I've ever seen: A collection of Sonic fans attempted to boycott SEGA by buying Sonic 1 (the 16-bit version) as released on Steam, WiiWare, Xbox Live Arcade, and the PSN.
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Top Gun



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 7:51 pm Reply with quote
Alabaster Spectrum wrote:
Yeah good luck with that. Anime fanbase is full of some of the most loudmouth not-so-nice-people out there that are going to do whatever the fudge they want. You can ask as nicely and politely as you want to not do certain things with your IP designed primarily to be a family friendly mascot for school textbooks and they'll just flip their shit and probably do it even more just to spite you. Zero respect for anybody or anything.

...you do realize that people have been drawing pornographic takes on Disney characters for decades, right?
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GeneStriker



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PostPosted: Fri Apr 15, 2016 8:39 pm Reply with quote
The legal head is basically saying, "We had to say something, so we did. We don't actually care. It happens all the time, after all."
leafy sea dragon wrote:
Though not porn-related, it still doesn't hold a candle to the most mismanaged fan-rage event I've ever seen: A collection of Sonic fans attempted to boycott SEGA by buying Sonic 1 (the 16-bit version) as released on Steam, WiiWare, Xbox Live Arcade, and the PSN.

That is the most hilarious misunderstanding of the word 'boycott' I have ever heard of.
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