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DeTroyes
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 Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:14 pm
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| HeeroTX wrote: | | While "anything is possible" (especially with lawyers), this an argument I'd really need to see to believe. Considering how hard Japan has been trying to fight reverse importation and (as others have said) how wide the variance is between Japanese prices and other regions for this kind of media, I really can't imagine ANY licenser putting that up as an argument to try to drive down licensing costs. Heck, US licensers have a MUCH better argument that Japanese attempts to prevent reverse-importing (namely, the delays they sometimes force on releases) is a MUCH bigger negative to buyer interest (preventing purchases during the "craze" period) than any people who actually buy the Japanese release. ESPECIALLY for Japanese DVDs which are still in a separate region from US players. (granted, BDs don't have that problem at least) |
I'm married to an attorney who does contract & intellectual property civil litigation. I'm just going based on 25+ years of talking with her on this subject.
I'm just trying to point out what may be part of the corporate POV on this. Quite probably its not any one thing that has caused Avex to do this; more likely its just one move in a general effort to better manage (in their mind) their properties. Sometimes corporations do things that don't seem logical but are really aimed at some other aspect we're not even aware of as yet. Or sometimes its just because somebody on the board has a corncob stuck up their you-know-what. You can't assume that there's a logical reason for it, because sometimes (sadly, more often than not) there isn't. All I was doing was speculating what might be their reasoning, based in part on things I've seen elsewhere.
As for DVD player regions... considering how ubiquitous all-region DVD players are, I hardly think that's a barrier anymore.
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Keichitsu0305
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 5:47 pm
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So basically Avex doesn't want my money and I'm better off paying $200 less for Funimation's eventual Limited Edition BD/DVD that might have the bonus video sometime in 2018.
Pfft....fine by me. :/
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Romuska
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:09 pm
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Ah well. As long as Aniplex doesn't have the license.
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TarsTarkas
Joined: 20 Dec 2007
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:16 pm
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| epicwizard wrote: |
| KH91 wrote: | | Before anyone complains about this, you should feel lucky that the folks in Japan even share their work with the rest of the world. Not that the titles mentioned are soul crushing or anything. Just a reminder. |
Exactly. If Japanese licensors wanted to, they could've still retained the mind set that their anime series aren't marketable in the West and therefore barely license them out there. Animated TV shows from China and South Korea suffer through this. |
If they do that, just go back to the old days then. Still waiting for Gosick to be released, so fan subs it is.
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Haterater
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 6:41 pm
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@KH91
Don't buy that. Screams terrible business sense and overall bad fan support when they decide to sell outside Japan again. Its like they want more piracy instead of serving their loyal fans. Better some money than nothing at all and bad outlook. Some Japanese companies and K-pop figured that out and don't do this, garnering fan support and sales.
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Megiddo
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:09 pm
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| TarsTarkas wrote: | | Still waiting for Gosick to be released, so fan subs it is. |
Why not import the Australian release?
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OldCharlieStoletheHandle
Joined: 12 Dec 2009
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Location: Mastic Beach, NY
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:54 pm
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| luffypirate85 wrote: | | As much as I'd like to jump on these brand new titles (especially that ice skating one) I've recently relocated with my family and the hospital I'm working at doesn't pay me as much as I'd anticipated they would. That and we are expecting our second child... I'll stick to streaming for now. |
Congratulations and best of luck with the new addition to your family.
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teferi
Joined: 16 May 2006
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:56 pm
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| epicwizard wrote: |
| KH91 wrote: | | Before anyone complains about this, you should feel lucky that the folks in Japan even share their work with the rest of the world. Not that the titles mentioned are soul crushing or anything. Just a reminder. |
Exactly. If Japanese licensors wanted to, they could've still retained the mind set that their anime series aren't marketable in the West and therefore barely license them out there. Animated TV shows from China and South Korea suffer through this. |
This pretty much in direct contradiction to what's actually happening. I mean come on, the Answerman article this week is about how big a deal Crunchyroll is. They want foreign investment because it helps them make anime. We're not lucky that they're licensing anime out to the rest of the world. They're doing it because it gives them a stable source of funding.
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Kosaka
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:07 pm
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The first sentence of the article currently says "December 14" instead of "February 14"; hopefully an ANN person can correct that.
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Chrno2
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 8:43 pm
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| Chrno2 wrote: | | Never thought I'd find my favorite retailer in the news. I wonder if this has to do with illegal sharing? Because if that is the case then it's messing things up for everyone else. |
Hardly. I'm pretty confident most raws floating around are ripped and mostly circulating within Japan, if the ip addresses connecting in the swarms are anything to go by...
Which is also what makes this move so hard to understand, along the fact that there's none of the reasons for reverse-importation behind it when it was the other way around.
As Cutiebunny said above, if someone is ready to pay premium, you're one crazy seller to refuse. And it's not going to stop unlicensed stuff from appearing as those rips in Japan will inevitably leak to here in the west, having no such restrictions for themselves... |
Thanks for that info. Good to know. I hope that this doesn't happen with other publishers because that could really hurt sales.
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meganinja
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:10 pm
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Soulpiece
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:30 pm
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| TarsTarkas wrote: |
| epicwizard wrote: |
| KH91 wrote: | | Before anyone complains about this, you should feel lucky that the folks in Japan even share their work with the rest of the world. Not that the titles mentioned are soul crushing or anything. Just a reminder. |
Exactly. If Japanese licensors wanted to, they could've still retained the mind set that their anime series aren't marketable in the West and therefore barely license them out there. Animated TV shows from China and South Korea suffer through this. |
If they do that, just go back to the old days then. Still waiting for Gosick to be released, so fan subs it is. |
Funny u JUST mention gosick, this happened https://twitter.com/FUNimation/status/831684524102803457
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TarsTarkas
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:32 pm
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| Megiddo wrote: |
| TarsTarkas wrote: | | Still waiting for Gosick to be released, so fan subs it is. |
Why not import the Australian release? |
Are Australian DVD's the NTSC standard or the PAL standard?
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TarsTarkas
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:35 pm
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| Christopher Martinez wrote: | | |
If true, winter is ending, and spring is coming; or is that just global warming....
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Parsifal24
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2017 9:44 pm
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Avex is within their rights to do this I really don't have a dog in this fight as I was never one to import Japanese Blu Rays, CDs, or DVDs, Manga and books sure but not those other things.
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