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Nilrem



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:21 am Reply with quote
The UK DVD release of DTP is appalling, possibly the worst DVD i've got in my collection (I couldn't even give it away), much worse than the R1 both in cost/content (it was dub only, 2 episodes and looked like it was a straight VHS to DVD copy*), but somehow worse than the disk that was given away free with the UK Playstation magazine in about 2001.


DTP was one of the first Anime I ever saw and still have a special place in my heart for that, yes it's not massive clever, but it's still funny to watch and has it's moments.



*It actually looked worse than my well aged VHS (i've got it on R1 DVD, PAL VHS, UK free disk, UK DVD.
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Goodpenguin



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:48 am Reply with quote
Like a few others on here, this was an earlier favorite of mine. Fond memories from the days of mail-ordering anime VHS. If your a (relatively) younger/newer fan who digs anime from the days when teen angst didn't yet rule the land and young males didn't need reviewers urgently warning them that 'WitchBlade' has a fanservice-y beach episode (don't worry, it gets back to that important mother-daughter emotional exploration soon!), I can recommend two anime you might not have seen:

*Daichis-Earth Defence Family (This is really good. I believe it's actually from 00-01', but it captures the spirit of late 80's-90's anime perfectly )

*All Purpose Cultural Cat Girl Nuku Nuku (OAV) (the OVA, not the TV series or the Dash variant)

Though older, both still stand up well and have aged better then other fun series of the time like 'Gunsmith Cats'. Great humor mixed with a few poignant parts about family, and terrific and inventive animation. Wish they still made em' like it.
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Moomintroll



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:01 pm Reply with quote
Goodpenguin wrote:
Though older, both still stand up well and have aged better then other fun series of the time like 'Gunsmith Cats'.


Funny you should mention the Gunsmith Cats OVAs since I just got the old ADV UK DVD release through the post two days ago (you can tell it's one of their earlier releases because they hadn't yet mastered the art of converting their shows to PAL format for their UK releases resulting in a warning on the back of the box that it may play in black and white on some British DVD players due to still being in the American NTSC format!).
Anyway, I watched it earlier today and I thought it had held up pretty well - far better than Dominion Tank Police has.

If anybody else fancies giving GSC a go, anime-on-line have it for £2.99 in their special offers section, which is quite a bargain.
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oriana3k



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:25 pm Reply with quote
What a coincidence. Just the other day, I was looking for our old VHS sub copy of Dominion, which is sadly, still missing. Now I even more want to find it. Crying or Very sad
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Craeyst Raygal



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:32 pm Reply with quote
Oddly enough, Dominion Tank Police was Anime #2 on my viewing list after seeing Project A-ko. I suppose this is a more common occurrence than I thought!

Really though, I've always felt that explaining Dominion Tank Police to the folks who've never seen it is best accomplished by asking them to think of the first Robocop movie. There's a lot of the same sort of humor, pacing, and over-the-top mayhem in both, and that's what makes it so easy to like.

Ahhh, I agree with Goodpenguin. A classic anime from a time when it was okay to shamelessly pander to guys who just wanted "tits and explosions".
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Swissman



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 2:47 pm Reply with quote
Ahh, that brings back good memories. DTP was one of the first dubbed Manga Video UK tapes I bought, along others like Project A-ko, Ultimate Teacher, Vampire Hunter D, ect. After more than a decade I watched the first OAVs again and I'm impressed how much fun they provide. Yes, the'yre cheesy, but I prefer this kind of old school anime over modern nonsense dating sim titles any day.

jsevakis wrote:
Clean music and effects tracks weren't available for Tank Police, so Manga Video UK was forced to rescore and refoley the entire series from scratch. This wasn't something uncommon for them; over the years the company had replaced the music of many different anime in an effort to make them "cooler" for their perceived audience of testosterone-fueled teenagers.

*cough* ... First of the North Star ... *cough*

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The opening song, the amusingly monotonous "Tank Police" is a decent euro-pop replacement for the 80's J-pop opening "Hot Dance In Cherry Moon", while the sexy dance theme that plays during the Puma sisters' strip act is even more sensual than the Japanese theme "Hey Boy".

Hmm, I hugely prefer "Hey Boy" over the uk dance theme, but I'm a sucker for such 80's japanese pop and it strikes a nostalgic vibe in me because I had a copy of the OST on tape. The BGM replacement however is an improvement over the original, I must agree.
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murph76



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 3:39 pm Reply with quote
Justin's column made me curious about this title, so I requested the title from Netflix. Apparently everyone else did, too, because it came up "very long wait." Laughing

Well, I look forward to watching it someday ...

-Murph
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UtenaAnthy



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 4:32 pm Reply with quote
Goodpenguin wrote:
If you like anime from the days when teen angst didn't yet rule the land and young males didn't need reviewers urgently warning them that 'WitchBlade' has a fanservice-y beach episode (don't worry, it gets back to that important mother-daughter emotional exploration soon!)


"Yeah, like let's objectify some women it'll totally rock!"

The first half of DTP I cannot stand, it's shallow, makes fun of violations of people's rights and I find it really not all that entertaining, aside from the dance scene, which while I hate the objectification has great music and reminds me of the work of Bruce Timm.

The second half is better, though the religion makes it less interesting than it could have been, it's less vicious and a more compelling story which leaves most of the casual beating and threatening behind to focus on the not entirely gone character from the first five minutes of the show.

Also that love ballad with the montage of blanket arranging and smiling is one of the worst songs I have ever heard in my entire life.

The similarities between this and Patlabor are noticeable, I like Patlabor rather more, love it actually.

Gunsmith Cats is great, I love that show, what with the excellent opening and the well written characters and the art design and the well choreographed action.
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Henry Jones



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:29 pm Reply with quote
Anime World Order wrote:

It wasn't until years later when I saw an uncut broadcast on Showtime that I realized the show had been edited at all. The entire ending credits consists solely of Annapuma and Unipuma swimming naked underwater--this was back when high-speed Internet didn't exist, thus limiting an adolescent's daily pornography intake to mere still images--and it was no longer in a small window such that you couldn't tell what was going on.

All this was overshadowed by the fact that Showtime played an uncut version of Wicked City soon afterwards. Truly the "state of the art Japanese animation" that the Streamline trailer with the 8 Man After Casio keyboard soundtrack was telling me about.


I had the reverse experience. I saw it on Showtime originally and then re-watched it on Sci-Fi's Saturday Morning Anime (Oh, how I loved the super-violent 90s anime like Akira mixed with innocuous toy ads). It was interesting to see some of the edits (Like how they cut out a scene in the auction house and it shows the Puma sisters randomly wearing dresses out of nowhere). What was more interesting was when I rented the subtitled VHS version (One act at a time back in the day) and found the completely changed music. Before I knew anything about anything in this whole anime fandom thing, that messed with my head a little bit.
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JELEINEN



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:39 pm Reply with quote
Bah! Harmageddon is awesome.
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Sam Murai



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:52 pm Reply with quote
Dominion Tank Police was pretty good in spots, though there was some serious potential wasted in the Buaku storyline (they went though so much concerning his mysterious past, in focus and intellectually, but nothing is ever fleshed out beyond the end scene). The score seemed to baffle me in terms of wondering why there were discrepancies between the styles of the theme (couldn't tell if they were the original Japanese or something concocted for English audiences), but know I know why. The OP was good, but I really enjoyed the ED and the accompanying animation (even if it wasn't made for that song).

Part of me, though, wants to see this remade in some surreal live-action adaptation...
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Goodpenguin



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 5:58 pm Reply with quote
UtenaAnthy wrote:

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Goodpenguin wrote:
If you like anime from the days when teen angst didn't yet rule the land and young males didn't need reviewers urgently warning them that 'WitchBlade' has a fanservice-y beach episode (don't worry, it gets back to that important mother-daughter emotional exploration soon!)

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"Yeah, like let's objectify some women it'll totally rock!"


C'mon with that ridiculous 'high-hat' over-reaction Betty Friedan. If your that hair-trigger sensitive towards certain things then anime, which is being made in one of the least 'gender fair' countries in the industrialized world, isn't an entertainment avenue you should be enjoying anyway. It's like new-age Puritans moved into this hobby.

Also, for as much as anime was dominated by goofy action and T&A in the past, it's ruled by teen soaps and melodrama fest's today. It's certainly not like anime has reached some intellectual/mature high-point where the 'Agent Aika's' of the world are a shameful dark spot on it's reputation, if anything it's more tween/teen limited then ever.

Bonus-Isn't it fun how any mention of sexy women+action brings out the critics, but the 'pretty boy' shows and BL material never raises similar objections? If that new airline BL (ANAL, har-har)was a regular seinen manga featuring a host of hot stewardesses with a similar sexually-suggestive theme, there would be complaints right of the bat. I've been as critical of creepy misogynist/subservient undertones in shows as much as anyone, but the 'Girls n' Guns' formula is harmless fluff, where a heroine is just as likely to kick butt then show hers (ala Gunsmith Cats, Dirty Pair, Cutey Honey, etc.). There certainly seems to be an attitude in anime fandom where girls can have their fun, but some mindless entertainment for guys is this terrible indication of social decay.
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JELEINEN



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:15 pm Reply with quote
Goodpenguin wrote:
If your a (relatively) younger/newer fan who digs anime from the days when teen angst didn't yet rule the land


Near as I can tell, teenage angst has always been a staple of anime.
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CrazyCanuck



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 6:20 pm Reply with quote
Sam Murai wrote:
Part of me, though, wants to see this remade in some surreal live-action adaptation...


Oh, dear God, that image will haunt me now...

I always like it when a title I own appears in this column (Treasure or Garbage). I also find it amusing how languishing copies on Amazon always sell out in a couple of hours after a new column is posted.

New Dominion Tank Police was one of the first titles I saw back in the early days of my serious fandom. It took a while before I could find a copy of the original to see. I always have found memories of this title, but am almost afraid to rewatch it. The anti-tank dildos will never be forgotten. For reasons that none of you will understand (if I'm wrong, "Hi Petey!") this title will alway be known in my house as 'Leslie with a gun.' I remember friends complaining about the change in dub cast from original to New (particularly the Puma sisters) and didn't know or care about the different companies involved to try to understand why that was. Ah, the good old days. The DVD of the original is still one of the most expensive I ever bought new from a retail outlet. The later rerelease was cheap, but the original one was back in the $40-50 days.

Definitely a title worth of the title Buried Treasure.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 7:05 pm Reply with quote
JELEINEN wrote:

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Near as I can tell, teenage angst has always been a staple of anime.


I wouldn't disagree, but in the past, to me, you could count on a certain segment of shows to steer clear of the more heavy drama material (Or at least adhere to the old-school 90% rule, where a show would be pretty fun until the last arc/episodes, where it would ramp up the theatrics's inexplicably). Nowadays it seems, outside of the random show like 'Ninja Nonsense', 'NDB' etc., heavy teen drama/angst/soap-intrigue is at the heart of most efforts regardless the genre. That's neither a bad or good thing, just changing tastes of generations I guess. Or maybe I'm just old and cranky.

Moomintroll wrote:

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Funny you should mention the Gunsmith Cats OVAs since I just got the old ADV UK DVD ...Anyway, I watched it earlier today and I thought it had held up pretty well - far better than Dominion Tank Police has.


Lest it be thought I was disparaging 'Gunsmith Cats', which is one of my favorites, when I mentioned it didn't age as well I was basing it on the reactions of younger family members and their friends who like to watch my anime collection. They tend to turn their nose up a bit at the old 'action' formula (Dirty Pair, Burn-Up, BG Crisis,Slayers etc.) stuff, or the more fanservice oriented material (Agent Aiko, Cutey Honey, Devil Hunter Yoko, Sorcerer Hunters, etc.). The flat out kinetic energy, great animation, and funny yet poignant material in those two shows I mentioned really grabbed them though, so much so that a few went out and actually bought their own copies.
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