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Actar
Posts: 1074 Location: Singapore |
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Can anyone in the industry comment on whether there are legal restrictions that they have to meet?
Does it really stop at mere freedom of expression though? One person's freedom ends where it begins to encroach into another person's freedom. You can smoke all you want, but if your second hand smoke affects me, that's when we have a problem. Freedom comes with responsibility. From what I understand, there are people and groups out there that actively campaign to get things banned and removed. If it stops at "I'm offended", sure. But if it's "I'm offended, get it out of my country even though it doesn't affect me and I'm depriving those who actually do want to play it from playing it." I think we have a problem. In my opinion, it's not so much "If only Westerners didn't want to view women and little girls as human beings!", but "If only Westerners can learn to live with things that offend them but don't affect them personally and are actually enjoyed by others."
No. You're just trying to impose what you think a "solid game" is on developers. A "solid game' and a "hypersexualized game" are hardly mutually exclusive. It still takes effort to produce things like that and you're just disregarding all of it because of the stigma of the content. |
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Kikaioh
Posts: 1205 Location: Antarctica |
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One of the principles of law is the idea of restricting personal freedoms in the interest of society as a whole. Although I agree that governmental censorship of free expression is wrong, people have the right to express and campaign in support for it, much as I might viscerally disagree with it. But really, governmental censorship isn't at all what's being discussed here, --- we're more talking about a president blaming people for having a different opinion.
I've seen my fair share of commentary expressing the notion that these sorts of characters "aren't human beings". And certainly I think Westerners have learned very well to live with things that offend them but don't affect them personally, esp. compared to countries that actually have censorship by force of law. |
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Rensie
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On purpose or not, i'm happy that they will release their games uncensored without any alterations, or to avoid any stupid localization release them in asia only with english subtitles.
This is the way to go, boycott censored games and buy only the uncut and original version. 100% approve this move. More companies should follow this trend. |
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Zaydgh123
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I still don't get why is this happening, in the west women do show a lot of their skin in public, when you go to the beach you get to see women in bikinis and its fine there.
but why games aren't allowed to have the same thing? GTA V has strippers that show their naked chests in it, and its all fine, but the bikinis in Dead or Alive aren't allowed? Can't they just rise the age restriction to 18 ? I'm worried about Hyperdimension Neptunia and the upcoming Tales of Berseria.......... |
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Tuor_of_Gondolin
Posts: 3524 Location: Bellevue, WA |
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It's happening because there is a certain group of people that has taken it upon itself to dictate to others how they should live their lives, down to what people think and feel about things (actions are not enough, they want to control your thoughts, too). These people are *not* the cute girls in bikinis on the beach. Often, people with this controlling mindset seek out positions where they can impose their ideals on others. They network together to ensure a unified front, to make their numbers seem greater than they actually are. This is to make it appear that their ideals are the majority's ideals, and if they can get enough people to believe that their ideals *are* the majority's ideals, then that actually comes to pass. This has happened repeatedly throughout history, (the Prohibition Era, when serving alcohol was illegal, is a well-known example) but it is easier to do now because of all the means we have of communicating with one another (things like social media via the Internet). They are able to get their ideas out, to ensure they're all in lock-step, and to quickly change message when events make that necessary. It took them a while to get around to the games industry (and the anime industry, for that matter), but they're working hard to make up for that, and now they've gotten their claws pretty firmly dug in, to the point that some foreign companies, like Idea Factory, don't want to have to deal with it anymore. How this will end up I don't know, but I am a pessimist by nature, so I doubt it'll end well for people like me who loathe censorship. But hopefully it'll turn out that I'm wrong. We'll just have to see. |
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Actar
Posts: 1074 Location: Singapore |
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To add on to the above comment, it's also because it's extremely hard to please people. For instance: - If a game puts them in the background, the girls are being objectified. - If a game gives them active roles, the girls are "men in female bodies". They constantly shift the goalposts and their arguments are fraught with double standards. |
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AnimeLordLuis
Posts: 1626 Location: The Borderlands of Pandora |
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I agree censorship has no place in games/anime that is marketed towards older teens and adults, Ars Gratia Artis, Art for Arts sake should be protected at all cost.
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Zaydgh123
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I understand now, thanks for the explanation.
its still sad that games localization plans are being ruined by false feminism(men hating and sensitivity) |
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BrainBlow
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It's lovely how vague you're being, so that you can modify this intangible boogeyman of yours as much as fits you. A company is simply being gutless(and trying to pass the blame for their games not selling in a market), but then people actually try to pin the blame on a "group of people." Of course, this group of people is never actually defined, because defining it would mean the idea is now open to being torn apart by factual reality. Keeping it vague lets one move the goalpost. Though what is factually wrong is that "this is happening because someone is controlling how people live." No, it's a company being gutless. It could release its game full of scantily clad prepubescent girls, and nobody would really care. |
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Actar
Posts: 1074 Location: Singapore |
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Can they now. |
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BrainBlow
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Yes. |
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encrypted12345
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He's being vague because the most common term to refer to them is banned here. I suppose extreme leftist will suffice. At the very least, they don't use the same tactics that the extreme right who oppose censorship do. The latter attack head on with courts (like with Jack Thompson) while the former seize positions of power and rely on a huge following and nepotism to execute their goals (like with Anita or the entire mess that is the IGDA). |
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BrainBlow
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Oh please, that term simply means "people who disagree with me." One bloke just yesterday straight up told me that Neo-Nazis can be categorized as it after he was done ranting about feminists. It's laughable how much of a malleable buzzword it is. Good thing it's banned here.
Anita is a nobody, and only "matters" because people(primarily the people who hate her) decides that she's important. If people didn't get so butthurt over her in the first place, she'd still be yet another no-name Youtuber nobody cares about. And then this massive, laughable boogeyman has been built around it, and any differing opinions coming from the direction of this boogeyman becomes "censorship." |
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casualfan
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people who care about social justice, the most hypocritical group in existence. At least people are waking up to the fact that they're just a bunch whiny idiots. Thanks to Play-Asia we can still import the games and the localization groups can go fudge themselves for siding with the JWs.
ps. rofl to think that the group's name is now censored. Hypocrisy abound nowadays |
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kurotsuki
Posts: 129 Location: Montreal, Canada |
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Quickly butting in to say this :
Japan in general practices the concept of "If I pretend something doesn't exist, all will be fine". This is how they get out of most things that could lead to conflict. "what? somebody is angry at something I did ? I'll just hide in my corner and wait for it to pass and It will all be ok eventually" I'm not saying that this is the reason they have taken certain actions as of late, but it shouldn't be too surprising if it were. Unfortunately, Japan is the most advanced-yet-backward society I've ever seen. But you know how the saying goes in Japan "shouganai" . That's what it all comes down to at the end of the day... Shouganai. |
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