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Sun King
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Aye, reading two thousand year old fairy tales isn't really my thing. But I was actually refering to the Lost Books of the Bible that aren't included in the current incarnation of the Bible for pretty obvious reasons. No, Jesus doesn't turn gay in 'em, but he does kill children 
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Richard J.
 Posts: 3367 Location: Sic Semper Tyrannis. |
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Fiction Alchemist: How the heck did I forget to congratulate you on finishing your book? Sorry about that. Great news and hope you can get it published and in the stores. I'm curious to see what you've come up with.
It's when a character is clearly not in a position of political power, but rather they're given the title out of great personal respect, that it sounds wrong. Like if they'd ditched the sama in the dub for Ai Yori Aoshi. Using "lord" in that story would sound very strange. (There's a trailer for the series where they did this and it sounds pretty off.) Keeping sama in that dub works. Its when a dub totally ditches even an attempt at honoring the honorifics that I get annoyed. (Bleach dub. Nice casting in my opinion, but must they ditch the honorifics? I mean, for crying out loud they've kept almost every Japanese term otherwise. At least try to use something it their place.)
By the way, what did I do to get to be so well liked around here? Seriously, I want to make sure I keep doing it. 
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I'm going to pretend I didn't read Sun King's opinion of the bible as I don't think he's trying to be offensive. |
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Fiction Alchemist
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Mirrinus
 Posts: 230 Location: La Thiene Plateau |
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Well, there are certainly very good reasons why those "lost books" never made it into canon nor are taken very seriously by most scholars and historians. The documentary evidence behind the Bible is quite a fascinating area of study. But yeah, there are some pretty weird versions of the gospel written centuries later with some bizarre stories. Besides those odd tales of shota-Jesus calling lightning bolts to kill people, those questionable "gospels" also contain talking crosses, contradictory sermons, and Jesus saying that women do not belong in the kingdom of heaven. Yeah...and people wonder why these things never made it into canon, lol.
Anyway, from a theological perspective the reason why the Bible doesn't include many stories of a teenage Jesus is because his personal ministry doesn't begin until he is baptized (as an adult) by John the Baptist, to fulfill Old Testament prophecy concerning the Messiah. |
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Mohawk52
 Posts: 8202 Location: England, UK |
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Richard J.
Posts: 3367 Location: Sic Semper Tyrannis. |
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After all, the world would be a much better place if everyone would just learn to be a little more courteous and understanding. Anime brings us together despite our differences so if we keep reminding ourselves of our shared fandom, it can help us to remember to be polite. That's my way of looking at things any way. Occasionally, I screw up but I try to be a generally positive poster. Really am looking forward to the book. Any chance of a signed copy when you get it published? |
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Sun King
Posts: 68 Location: Virginia |
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Well, that is my opinion on Christianity and Judaism. If you want to ignore it, that's fine with me. The fact is, I don't need any book to tell me how to live my life, whether it's the Bible, the Satanic Bible, the Koran or anything else. Now, if my views are offensive to anyone or not, that's really up to them. |
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kolibri
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Come now - opinions can be expressed in many ways, and yours on this subject are most definitely expressed in a very confrontational way. You'd be an insensitive jerk if you didn't realize that some people will be offended by them. |
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Aizen-chan
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My beef is not that they translated it, or what they translated it too. My beef is that they they translated that one term, and then left most of the others in Japanese. It's inconsistant. They should have either translated all the words or left all the words. Also, shinigami is probably one of the few words that most Bleach fans know, but some of the lesser known terms were left in Japanese. If I'm going to pay for a translation, I want things to be translated.
When I buy an English translation of a book I expect it to be translated properly. It's not a parrakeet. Even if the original Japanese said parrakeet, it's still wrong. It doesn't even look like a parrakeet, so how can you translate it as parrakeet? It's 100% completely the wrong word and it could have easily been corrected by using the word Parrot (which is what both parrakeets and cockatiels are).
1. I never said anything about the dub, which I haven't seen. 2. I'm not complaning about Naruto's translation or One Piece's translation because I don't give a shit about either series. But I do actually BUY Bleach books, which is why I comment on it. 3. The Bleach translations are not polished - they are marred by stupid little details like translating "Shinigami", but then leaving other Japanese terms untranslated, and using the word "parrakeet" to identify a bird that is obviously NOT a parakeet. |
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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
 Posts: 7912 Location: Anime News Network Technodrome |
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Why, though? Why does it "HAVE" to be all one way or all the other way? Is it impossible for you to be flexible on this, and understand that it still makes sense and follows through the way they did it? I don't get why people seem to be so ridiculously pedantic and demanding about things like this. |
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Sun King
Posts: 68 Location: Virginia |
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No, that was me not caring one way or the other. I haven't said anything I wouldn't say in real life, and no one seems to care that much, unless they're hardcore Christian fundamentalist types. Otherwise, they just agree or disagree, and I accept their opinions while expressing that mine aren't gonna change. Sure, I think the world would be a better place without religion, but it's not gonna happen (at least not in my lifetime) so it's not like I'm out to get anyone.
huh. I'm interested to know how they proved they were his decendents. It's not like they could dig up his body and do a DNA test. |
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kolibri
Posts: 712 Location: Vancouver |
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"Not caring one way or the other" how your words affect other people is the definition of insensitive. I can get a dictionary definition of "jerk" too, if you want. Look, I'm an agnostic and I'll probably agree on principle with many of the things you said, and I was still offended by your remarks. I know a lot of religious people (of many different religions, not just Christians) who are the sweetest most sensitive people I've ever met... And I know they would be quite hurt and upset if someone used the kind of crude language about their religion and holy men like you did. I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, why would I, be it about religion or something else... so I choose my words accordingly. I don't need to prove to them that I'm "right" or that they're "wrong", I'm not that pretentious. If you behave like that in real life too, I'm just glad I'm not around you then. |
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mistress_reebi
Posts: 735 Location: Canada |
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We aren't telling you to believe in any religion. We are telling you to treat people with respect by not making vulgar statements like you just did. I agree with kolibri, think what you write next time. Have some maturity and write material that isn't going to offend anyone. Your "jokes" aren't humourous. We don't bash your views on how you believe the Earth was created, so you should do the same also. Follow the golden rule: do unto others as they you would like them to do unto you. Oh and, don't do anymore fake apologies this time-- actually mean it. |
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Sun King
Posts: 68 Location: Virginia |
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[Pointless OT posting and vulgar language and attacks on other users. - Keonyn]
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Keonyn
 Subscriber Posts: 5567 Location: Coon Rapids, MN |
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This has gone on long enough. As fascinating as you might find your comments they have no relation to the article or anime. This isn't a religion debate and such a debate has no place here. This goes for everyone else as well, let's get this back on topic.
Replacing one letter with a * doesn't make it magically fine, and as the rule states be respectful to other posters or don't post at all. You can disagree all you want but comments like that and attitudes of that nature simply won't be tolerated. This forum and these threads aren't here just to amuse yourself, especially if it means attacking other users, and especially if those attacks don't even involve the subject matter. This ends here and now, if this doesn't meet with your approval there's a logout button for you to use, we can help you find it if you like. |
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