Forum - View topicINTEREST: Banned Books Week: Banned and Challenged Manga of 2009-2010
|
Goto page Previous 1, 2, 3, 4 Next Note: this is the discussion thread for this article |
| Author | Message | |||
|---|---|---|---|---|
Teriyaki Terrier
 Posts: 5689 |
|
|||
I seriously thought it would after the anime and magna ended. Or at least several years ago. I just don't understand why people think it's "cool" to copy scenes from manga that may hurt them or others. Or both. But while I do agree Dragon Ball isn't for elementry kids, it's not nearly as violent or as gory as some other series. In fact, the main character Goku doesn't want to hurt others or even fight if he had too. Yes, Dragon Ball may not be G rated, but at least there isn't senseless violence or themes that may be far too mature for the targeted audience. Some these parents must have forgotten the old days of Looney Tones, what with the explosions, anvils hitting characters on the heads and some other violence that wasn't exactly G rated either. I am not saying the library is wrong for doing this (better the kids be in a library rather than just playing video games or ruining their hearing with very loud music) but the parents are fooling themselves if they think this will fix everything just like that. I was young once and if there was a will, there will always be a way. Doesn't matter if it's legal or illegal. So they banned the books at this library, what stops Junior from reading the book at a book store, online or at a friend's house? Yes, the parents might have won a battle, but they will never be able to win the war entirely. So the library got rid of the books, not really a big deal. If said library has computers, the young generation can easily read said titles online. You can win as many battles as you want, but it won't stop young people from reading these titles elsewhere or in the future. And that is why in a sense, it's utterly pointless to get rid of said books at libraries. I don't mind parents that are just trying to shelter their kids from really violent media (like Death Note) because that is reasonable until the kids are old enough. It's these obsessively protective helicopter parents that irk me to no end. Truthfully, I know if I was a young person and someone denied me the opportunity to read something I enjoyed, I'd challenge them and find another way to read the book. While it may be true that someone can controll the access you have to mass media and what not, no one will ever be able to control what goes on in your mind. Except if you ADHD, but that is another case entirely. |
||||
|
||||
SonicRenegade84
 Posts: 630 Location: Atlantis! |
|
|||
|
Oh yes, why should we read horrible things like Dragonball and Deathnote when we have such nice goody titles like "Lord of the Piss-Poor Flies" or "Catcher of the sleepness Rye"?
|
||||
|
||||
GW-9800
 Posts: 39 Location: Montreal |
|
|||
|
Most people I know read Dragon Ball in elementary school and they turned out to be perfectly fine. So...what's the big deal? Are american kids that different from the rest of the world that they can't read a kid's manga?
Seriously, when did you guys read Dragon Ball? In college? 
|
||||
|
||||
Sunday Silence
 Posts: 2047 |
|
|||
Kids today are pansies compared to back then. In my day, we never got sick. You know why? Cause we swam in RAW SEWAGE. Tempered our bodies from any and all viral infections. Today? Damn, every other kid seems to have some peanut allergy or are too fat for their own good. And let's not forget, todays parents are also pansies as well. What the hell happened? |
||||
|
||||
Tamaria
 Posts: 1512 Location: De Achterhoek |
|
|||
Exactly. Looking back, the other comics I read as a kid (mostly Dutch kids' comics) weren't much different from Dragonball. I can think of several that featured more nudity or were more violent. Lots of Dutch kids read these comics and they turned out just fine. The screwed up ones are the ones who didn't read anything as kids. |
||||
|
||||
|
Ichiron47
Posts: 12 |
|
|||
I started reading the Dragon Ball manga in middle school, but saw Dragon Ball Z UNCUT (2005) when I was in 5th grade. |
||||
|
||||
enurtsol
 Posts: 14796 |
|
|||
Guess what? A lot of people want to ban those too. People who want to ban these don't distinguish between manga or American, so don't distinguish between them too. |
||||
|
||||
John Casey
 Posts: 1853 Location: In My Angry Center |
|
|||
|
There's a difference between "suggestive content" and "pulling no punches."
I guess in that sense, those parents need to learn the same thing...
Well howdy-do, Huck. 
|
||||
|
||||
vashfanatic
 Posts: 3492 Location: Back stateside |
|
|||
|
Re: Dragonball, the target age in Japan was upper-elementary through middle school; the main reason to not have it in an elementary school library would be that really young kids might pick it up thinking it was just a "picture book." It's better left for middle school libraries, for kids 11-14 -- the main audience in Japan.
Actually, the Dragonball controversy was what made me go through the manga collection at my own library and give some advice on which series should be in the children's/youth/adult sections. They had Battle Royale and Transmetropolitan in the 11-18 section, for example. Sometimes you can avoid banning books simply by trying to make it clear to parents (who are admittedly often idiots) that some series are not meant for small children. There's still an idea that comic books, because they are illustrated, must not be "adult." You'd have thought that all the comic book movies recently might have made everyone realize such was not the case, but ah well. |
||||
|
||||
rinmackie
 Posts: 1040 Location: in a van! down by the river! |
|
|||
|
Actually, vash, most comic book movies stay within the pg-13 rating, though some come awfully close to being R-rated. I think there are only a few R-rated comic book movies so far like Kick-Ass. And most parents seem to have no problem taking kids to comic book movies and they may have read those comics as kids. Yet, they may still be unaware that comics can be adult; there still seem to be lots of people who are shocked to discover that there are mature comics.
|
||||
|
||||
Mohawk52
 Posts: 8202 Location: England, UK |
|
|||
|
||||
|
||||
|
SonicRenegade84
Posts: 630 Location: Atlantis! |
|
|||
I know. I was saying that as in "those books are so bad they SHOULD be banned.....and I don't mean bad as in rated M". |
||||
|
||||
|
rinmackie
Posts: 1040 Location: in a van! down by the river! |
|
|||
In America, most adult comics were wiped out starting in the '50's with the great comic book scare. Adult comics in the US have only recently reemerged in the last few decades. So most Americans today don't remember the older comics and assume that comics have always been and still are for kids. Same goes for animation as well. As for the underground comics, I don't think most mainstream Americans were that aware of them. Anyway, all I know is most people (except those who've always been into comics) are surprised to learn that not all comics are for kids. |
||||
|
||||
bglassbrook
 Posts: 1243 Location: Gaithersburg, MD |
|
|||
Quite a while afterwards, in my case. So, what is this "sexual contact between children" nonsense? Or did I just get a post-censorship copy? |
||||
|
||||
|
vashfanatic
Posts: 3492 Location: Back stateside |
|
|||
And Watchmen, and any parent who took a kid under the age of 13 to see Dark Knight should be slapped for stupidity.
And by "last few decades," I suppose you mean "since the 70s"? There's been a lot of time for the American public to adjust, but comic books have stayed so nerd-niche in this country that it's only been with the ascendancy of nerd culture in Hollywood over the last decade (thank you Brian Singer and Peter Jackson) that the general population has even become aware of what's going on in comics at all. But things are changing. Entertainment Weekly got my nod of approval for picking Fun Home as one of their top 10 books of the decade. Definitely not child-appropriate stuff, that. |
||||
|
||||
 |
All times are GMT - 5 Hours |
|
|
|
Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group