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Kebble
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:47 pm
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It's sad to see that neither candidate feels they can win without pandering to the stupid vote.
Newsflash: in November, most of these people will think of every excuse under the sun to avoid voting. The reason why young people are underrepresented in politics is because a lot of them don't vote. For the life of me, I could not convince my friends to vote in the last election, because they supposedly didn't support any candidate. The problem I have with that is, when pressed, it turns out that they haven't researched any candidates or their positions. Therefore, it's just an excuse to cover up their own lack of interest in politics and democracy. Sad.
Needless to say, a lot of the young people I encounter express socialist views, partly because they've been carried through life and don't know the value of working for something. That is the major appeal of a candidate like Bernie Sanders. Unfortunately, not everything in life can be paid for by the government and given to you for free. With that said, Bernie Sanders is a great person and if the Democratic Party goes on to win the election, it will be because he swayed enough people to vote Democrat.
Honestly, I like Hillary Clinton, but I can't see her in the shoes of any past president, which makes me uneasy about her becoming president. Sure, one might argue that she's a more qualified alternative to Donald Trump, but, on its own, that fact does not mean I would automatically vote for her. If anything, I won't be voting against someone in this election, because that's how politics becomes toxic and real issues get ignored. And if real issues don't get discussed, then how is anybody supposed to gauge a candidate?
Donald Trump is extremely hard to read. There's a side of him that appears unpredictable in front of the cameras, but as far as being "unscripted" goes, he at times seems to know exactly what he's doing. His campaign, with the exception of a few notable mishaps, has been methodical and well coordinated, decimating a Republican field of would-be nominees. I'm not one to let fear-mongering or attack ads influence my opinion of someone, which neither helps nor works against Trump. The problem with Trump is that there isn't a lot of substance in his campaign. Supposedly, he will build a giant wall, ban Muslims, and burn free-trade agreements... but Trump is supposed to be a business man and a "master negotiator," which means that I expect a lot more than catchy slogans and displays of demagoguery to sell me on any of these proposals.
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Kougeru
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 5:57 pm
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Quote: | towards Bernie's side of the Democratic Party. |
Fixed. Seriously tho, try all she might, she's too much of a proven liar to get votes for simply trying to be connect via Pokemon
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Aquamine-Amarine
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:07 pm
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Trump's response was the best. Gotta love that troll.
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Megiddo
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:20 pm
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Why ANN.
Why in the world would you post this unless you wanted to invoke politics in the forum. I come to ANN for anime, not politics. Keep politics out.
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BadNewsBlues
Joined: 21 Sep 2014
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:20 pm
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yotsubafanfan wrote: | Leave us alone! If we want to vote for you we will, you trying to get on our side by quoting Pokemon, and doing other things to try to appeal to millenial's just makes you look desperate and pathetic. |
And yet when Herman Cain did it everyone laughed at him....along with all the other silly things he did in that primary.
bones2039 wrote: | I can't wait till after November when we have the horrible president we deserve, be it the crazy reality tv personality or the lying out of touch career politician. |
We've done nothing to deserve Trump as President. So what's this "we" jazz?
Megiddo wrote: | Why ANN.
Why in the world would you post this unless you wanted to invoke politics in the forum. I come to ANN for anime, not politics. Keep politics out. |
Well the news does have to do with video games a medium ANN tends to usually cover hence why this was likely covered and not simply for the "politics" thing.
Kougeru wrote: | Fixed. Seriously tho, try all she might, she's too much of a proven liar to get votes for simply trying to be connect via Pokemon |
Proven liar too who? Republicans and the more hardline Bernie Sanders supporters who think those lies somehow disqualify her candidacy?
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Heishi
Joined: 06 Mar 2016
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:22 pm
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Kebble wrote: | It's sad to see that neither candidate feels they can win without pandering to the stupid vote.
Newsflash: in November, most of these people will think of every excuse under the sun to avoid voting. The reason why young people are underrepresented in politics is because a lot of them don't vote. For the life of me, I could not convince my friends to vote in the last election, because they supposedly didn't support any candidate. The problem I have with that is, when pressed, it turns out that they haven't researched any candidates or their positions. Therefore, it's just an excuse to cover up their own lack of interest in politics and democracy. Sad.
Needless to say, a lot of the young people I encounter express socialist views, partly because they've been carried through life and don't know the value of working for something. That is the major appeal of a candidate like Bernie Sanders. Unfortunately, not everything in life can be paid for by the government and given to you for free. With that said, Bernie Sanders is a great person and if the Democratic Party goes on to win the election, it will be because he swayed enough people to vote Democrat.
Honestly, I like Hillary Clinton, but I can't see her in the shoes of any past president, which makes me uneasy about her becoming president. Sure, one might argue that she's a more qualified alternative to Donald Trump, but, on its own, that fact does not mean I would automatically vote for her. If anything, I won't be voting against someone in this election, because that's how politics becomes toxic and real issues get ignored. And if real issues don't get discussed, then how is anybody supposed to gauge a candidate?
Donald Trump is extremely hard to read. There's a side of him that appears unpredictable in front of the cameras, but as far as being "unscripted" goes, he at times seems to know exactly what he's doing. His campaign, with the exception of a few notable mishaps, has been methodical and well coordinated, decimating a Republican field of would-be nominees. I'm not one to let fear-mongering or attack ads influence my opinion of someone, which neither helps nor works against Trump. The problem with Trump is that there isn't a lot of substance in his campaign. Supposedly, he will build a giant wall, ban Muslims, and burn free-trade agreements... but Trump is supposed to be a business man and a "master negotiator," which means that I expect a lot more than catchy slogans and displays of demagoguery to sell me on any of these proposals. |
Ah, the good ol' baseless "free stuff" argument.
A great way to demonize supporters of Sanders.
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Mr. Oshawott
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:49 pm
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If Hillary Clinton is truly enthusiastic of Pokémon GO, then more power to her. But I suspect that it really isn't the case if her declining polls numbers are of any indication.
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FloozyGod
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 6:58 pm
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Whenever something fun like Pokemon Go happens, the not-so-nice-people try and shut it down. If that doesn't work, then they decide to use it for their own agenda. Just fudge off for once thanks
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Zalis116
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:02 pm
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Heishi wrote: |
Kebble wrote: |
Needless to say, a lot of the young people I encounter express socialist views, partly because they've been carried through life and don't know the value of working for something. That is the major appeal of a candidate like Bernie Sanders. Unfortunately, not everything in life can be paid for by the government and given to you for free. With that said, Bernie Sanders is a great person and if the Democratic Party goes on to win the election, it will be because he swayed enough people to vote Democrat
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Ah, the good ol' baseless "free stuff" argument.
A great way to demonize supporters of Sanders. |
Well, it's not like anyone possibly could've realized what a raw deal capitalism has become, or that they're turning to government because they know their employers will cut them loose to raise their stock price an eighth of a cent. No, it must be the free stuff.
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SWAnimefan
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:05 pm
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I'm glad I'm not alone in the thought that politics should stay out of this! The last thing I want to see at a Pokemon hub (or any other social game hub) is someone taking advantage of the situation to soliciting me for what not.
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bones2039
Joined: 17 Jul 2008
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:19 pm
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BadNewsBlues wrote: |
bones2039 wrote: | I can't wait till after November when we have the horrible president we deserve, be it the crazy reality tv personality or the lying out of touch career politician. |
We've done nothing to deserve Trump as President. So what's this "we" jazz?
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Considering the failure to provide real leadership from either major party in US politics we are getting just what we the american people deserve. We have allowed the fringe elements of both parties to grab control and steer politics in a way that divides the american people more than ever. Way too many people are not engaged and knowledgeable about what is going on with elections or our government. Make no mistake, the reason both Trump and Clinton are the candidates we have is because in general, not enough of us care about the election since we are more concerned with who Taylor Swift is dating or the PSI in a football.
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BadNewsBlues
Joined: 21 Sep 2014
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:46 pm
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bones2039 wrote: |
Considering the failure to provide real leadership from either major party in US politics we are getting just what we the american people deserve. |
Real leadership would be what in your opinion? because most of the people I've seen say this are people who think things like supporting Israel in everything, not speaking up when our law enforcement or government agencies make mistakes that lead to avoidable or unnecessary deaths, And persecuting and stereotyping Muslims is somehow "real" leadership eventhough it's not?
Like I said we've done nothing to deserve a Trump presidency if Trump gets elected president it'll be because he got a lot of undeserved support from an electorate who supports regressive and unbeneficial policies, incompetence, & feamongering not because he legitimately deserved it. Basically a repeat of the 2004 election.
bones2039 wrote: | We have allowed the fringe elements of both parties to grab control and steer politics in a way that divides the american people more than ever. |
Ummm no we haven't republicans have allowed the fringe elements to take over and dictate party policy (The Tea Party), democrats on the otherhand have been pretty good about keeping their fringe elements under wraps to the point you wouldn't even know they exist.
bones2039 wrote: | Way too many people are not engaged and knowledgeable about what is going on with elections or our government. |
This is what happens when you're a political party that would rather have far fewer people disengaged from the political process and actually do things to promote that even at the potential risk of hurting yourself and the perception of American politics as a whole. But Republicans could care less about that when consolidating power by any means necessary is all what they want. If a few people have to be illegally thrown off voter rolls, discouraged from voting or registering via lies and bad laws and what not so be it in their eyes.
bones2039 wrote: | Make no mistake, the reason both Trump and Clinton are the candidates we have is because in general, not enough of us care about the election since we are more concerned with who Taylor Swift is dating or the PSI in a football. |
Actually Hillary is the candidate in the general for democrats because they had no one else they were interested in running besides Biden, whereas Donald Trump is where he's at because republican voters like the idea of a loudmouth, unlikable,politically inexperienced, celebrity as president (they liked Reagan afer all) even when the party itself hates him despite the fact that he espouses views they openly and discreetly support.
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Gemnist
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:49 pm
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Wishing for the death of someone else is not appropriate for the forums. --willag
At the rate things are going, someone is going to kill someone at the RNC, no exaggeration. And this isn't helped by the fact that people can carry HANDGUNS there and are banned from bringing TENNIS BALLS.
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Razor/Edge
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 7:58 pm
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I'm all for getting people registered to vote, even if the two presidential candidates this years are literally worse than pig manure. But voting for your local representatives and Congressmen is just as, if not more, important than voting for president.
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kinghumanity
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2016 10:26 pm
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Gemnist wrote: | At the rate things are going, someone is going to kill someone at the RNC, no exaggeration. And this isn't helped by the fact that people can carry HANDGUNS there and are banned from bringing TENNIS BALLS. |
Guns are banned at the RNC. The irony is unreal.
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