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fantaselion
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Actually they should update the article a bit, cause Sanzigen was the main CGI crew for Re:Cyborg 009. Sublimation helped, but were not the main studio behind that one. Walking Meat however, they were the main studio. If you look that up on youtube (Walking meat Pv) you'll find it quick and it doesn't look thaaaat bad. in terms of CGI anime, one of the better ones for sure. |
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#854626
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oh my goodness, you are just so right. everybody loved advent children back in the mid 2000's and kingsglaive looks gorgeous. so do those 3 re cg movies, regardless of story quality. i feel like 2d should never be "replaced" so to speak but if netflix is going to dive into 3d japanese animations making something of a 2 hour videogame cutscene would be 1000 times better then trying to replicate 2d on a 3d plane or whatever the heck polygon and sublimation do that makes it look as bad as it does. theres still alot of stuff you can do with that photo realistic 3d cg that you cant do with real life (the final battle of re vendetta. even the battle between chris and the villain had motions that werent realistically possible, despite it being just 2 humans having a john wick fight) |
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Animegomaniac
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Vampire in the Garden sounds promisising to me, as long as it focuses on the "friendly neighborhood vampire" aspect of its plot and not a possible "girls gone Idol!" story because we already had a successful Idol zombie thing, we don't need vampire idols.
Don't age, always look perfect... well, that's EXACTLY what Idol producers would want, right? Vampire in the Garden... it's just a great title, I'm actually impressed with it in this era of "plot synopsis plus punctuation so you know how serious you should take it" Light Novels. Calming with a hint of the macabre. |
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El Hermano
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Ehhhh Walking Meat still looks bad. I only like CG when it's the really good, detailed kind like in the CG Resident Evil and Final Fantasy ones . It works there, since it looks like it came right out of the video game itself. |
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donhumberto
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Wow, this looks really interesting. Specially Super Crooks looks pretty dope. Kinda wish all of them were 2D though, but oh, well. In any case I'm glad to see so many promising titles (Psycho pass 3, Spriggan and now this) being announced within just a few days... hopefully we'll get to see all of them in 2019
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MarshalBanana
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I really wish I could talk to the people in charge of Anime at Netflix and point out to them, that while yes there are some people who do like 3D Anime, a large majority do not, and therefore they are not marketing Anime correctly to a global audience(which I assume is their goal) when producing or licensing them.
It's shame really, they could give Bones a ton of money to make a slickly put together Mecha show, because aside from Sunrise no one else makes watchable Mech shows, instead of getting them to adapt some comic book, which from the other comments I can only assume wasn't that good. |
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relyat08
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Is there any reference to Netflix on the Devilman Crybaby BD? If not, I would imagine the lack of it on that, AICO, and everything else they exclusively streamed, but didn't directly produce, is because they aren't on the actual production committee for any of them. Castlevania was something they did have direct production involvement in as per Sam Deats. |
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jdnation
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It always befuddles me as to why nobody bothers to make movies or TV shows the same way developers do using real-time cutscenes in their engines. The quality is already there. I can understand the entire staff at Capcom being busy with games, but you'd think they could just churn out OVAs or episodes in-house and keep the money. Unless there are some legalities and other complicated things involved in this and distribution that are outside of their expertise. But yeah, Square Enix Visual Works should put out more stuff like Advent Children. Kingsglaive looked great too, but had really bad directing. Advent Children is the gold standard. With better writing both those projects could've been awesome. |
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alconnow_
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Not interested in any of these.
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OjaruFan2
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I'm just curious, why do a large majority of anime fans hate CGI anime so much? And how is them producing CGI anime mismarketing anime correctly to a global audience? I'm asking these as someone who has watched four CGI productions (Danchi Tomoo, The Snack World, Stand By Me Doraemon, and the trailer to the upcoming Netflix-exclusive Saint Seiya) and found all of them pretty appealing to look at. Last edited by OjaruFan2 on Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:58 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Beatdigga
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What isn’t Netflix greenlighting at this point? After the LA One Piece was apparently greenlit by them, I feel like someone pretty high up is a hardcore otaku type.
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OjaruFan2
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Hmm, an American live-action adaptation of Sailor Moon. 
Yeah. A non-fan wouldn't be greenlighting so much anime. |
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meiam
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Cause there's a very long list of terrible CGI show and an incredibly small one of decent ish with almost none considered visually on par with the masterwork of traditional animation. CGI is also usually used when they're trying to make the show as cheaply as possible, this usually mean that the people involved are either not very committed to the project or new/inexperience one. CGI is also new, so even experienced director don't really know how to use it, so they either use it the same way traditional animation is done, which yield terrible results or they try something new, which sometime work but mostly fails (it took decades for traditional anime to figure out how to look good, it'll take just as long with CGI). |
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MarshalBanana
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As to why people dislike it, that seems to vary from person to person, most people do not like the quality of it. Even people who like it are often apologetic about it. As for your second question, well if they are picking Anime that they believe will be popular in multiple countries, why pick a certain amount that are likely going to be disliked. There seems to be this belief that western audience want CG Anime, which of course is untrue(at least it is based on all the feedback I've seen towards it). |
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jdnation
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Well no actually, we already have lots of good to exemplary CG examples, even coming from Japan. So we know how to make it look good. It's just a matter of time, talent and money. And you can't get good CG on the time frame and budget and low salaries that the traditional animation industry in Japan is run on. Also I don't believe animators remain at home drawing keyframes like a lot of the cottag industry is doing. I imagine that with CG you need to be at the office using their hi-spec machines and render farms, so it would be a totally different workflow. |
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