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Black_Kenshi
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I remember watching this series on-demand about 10 years ago. I would certainly put this on the list of highly recommended gems that you really only need to see once. Thus is especially the case since I had to take a year+ break from it due to going through an extremely stressful time at work at the time. The themes explored here was certainly not something I was willing to sit through while being broken by my real life. So yeah, I was broken from this.
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a_Bear_in_Bearcave
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She had a family, that if she wouldn't return would probably spend rest of their lives searching for her and hoping - you can read about many cases of families still wrecked by the parent desperate search for their child missing for decades, especially since sometimes such children do get found and all newspapers write about it, renewing the desperation - while her "new family" would knew she was safe if she get back. This would be much safer for her kid if she was determined to not abort it then rising it in the wasteland spoiler[(yeah, they got water now, but that doesn't immediately restore civilization destroyed by centuries of wars)]. I don't think anything was wrong in her character at the beginning - spoiler[we first see her kidnapped and scared, then raped and realizing she was now sex-slave for life in a horrible alien world that there's no returning from.] I don't think we can tell she had bad character before - she was just immediately traumatized, and all we saw later was her slowly healing from that trauma. That doesn't mean she must be punished by the show by having her family and future ripped from her to teach viewers a Pollyannish lesson about how life can be great anywhere (which I don't agree with frankly - spoiler[Shu prevented her suicide, just in time for the bad guy forces to appear, murdering half the people she learned to love, and about to bring her back in the life of sex-slave and enslave all the kids she cared for as child soldiers or sex/breed slaves. But she can't deny chance for that life to her kid! ]What a load of bullshit) I also dislike how certain parallels in the ending. It's like the spoiler[she got pregnant, she got stern talking-to for trying to abort, then she ended up becoming the "mom" for life for her and other kids, removing any chance for whatever life she dreamed of in our world, while the male MC just walked away to old world in the end after convincing her like teen father abandoning the kid and the mother he was responsible for to continue his career in kendo IIRC.] |
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FireChick
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Whoa whoa whoa, I'm confused. What crimes are you talking about? I don't remember Daichi ever being accused of any crime. Care to explain? Also, why are people claiming spoiler[Sis told Sara to avoid abortion? Having seen the show years ago, I remember vividly that Sis was telling Sara that she had every right to be angry at what the world did to her, but taking it out on her baby wasn't the right course of action. The baby Sara is pregnant with just happened to be the result of the rapes, not the cause of them. Basically, Sis was trying to convince Sara that it's okay to be hurt, angry, and scared, but to not let her anger and hatred control her entire life and direct it to a more productive cause. I could be wrong here, as again, I haven't seen the show in a while, but I do remember that scene clear as day.] |
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cookiemanstah
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Daichi is known for avoiding veteran talent for his productions and recruits people new to the industry. He would coerce young girls into sexual favors and hold their career prospects over their head. The author of Fruits Basket, Natsuki Takaya, absolutely despises him and it's why Fruits Basket 2001 ended up the way it did. animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2019-02-13/voice-actress-hiroko-konishi-shares-her-metoo-story/.143311 |
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nobahn
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enurtsol
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Eh, is all good. Everybody got what they deserved at the end
Ah still have that 
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DangerMouse
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Ah! That was it. Thanks, I was trying to remember when I managed to see this since I still remember how strong it was but couldn't remember how I actually got the chance to watch it after all this time. |
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Top Gun
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I was in the same boat as you. Most of that SyFy block feels like a fever dream at this point.
This series was devastatingly good, and it's one I really should revisit at some point, but I'm certainly in no rush to do so. It's the same reason I've been trying to psych myself up to watch Grave of the Fireflies for a good decade. Regardless, I'm glad that I was able to see it. While they're definitely not something I want to watch every week, I very much appreciate those works that shine a light on the darkest aspects of the human condition, because reality usually winds up being far worse than fiction. |
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Naiera
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Thinking about this one still makes my stomach hurt. The ED is so beautiful and tragic.
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taster of pork
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Great series. Still have my ADV Boxset, When I first discoverd Anime and was watching anything I could find I rented the First NTHT DVD from Blockbuster not knowing anything about it. I ended up liking it so much I went back the same day and rented the rest of the series. I wasn't expecting it to be as dark as it was, but that's part of what got me into Anime.
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