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Sven Viking
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| SHD wrote: | | This is actual fantasy, right? Not isekai/game-referencing stuff, right? |
It’s a bit like someone wrote a fantasy novel and then tacked on a few lines to allow it to be marketed as isekai.
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zztop
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:10 am
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Merxamers
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:19 am
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| Sven Viking wrote: |
| SHD wrote: | | This is actual fantasy, right? Not isekai/game-referencing stuff, right? |
It’s a bit like someone wrote a fantasy novel and then tacked on a few lines to allow it to be marketed as isekai. |
I wouldn't say this is entirely accurate; the isekai element is important, as Will's driving motivation is regret from how his previous life went. However, it very much doesn't feel like a modern narou "isekai," in that it doesn't have any LitRPG elements (no levels, jobs, etc.). It actually feels a lot more like a classic fantasy novel - my mind immediately thought of Gene Wolf's "The Wizard Knight" series. In fact, I'd say it avoids almost every trope that seems to annoy people about modern isekai stories.
I am very excited for this anime, I hope it turns out well. The novels really are that special.
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Sven Viking
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:35 am
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| Merxamers wrote: |
| Sven Viking wrote: |
| SHD wrote: | | This is actual fantasy, right? Not isekai/game-referencing stuff, right? |
It’s a bit like someone wrote a fantasy novel and then tacked on a few lines to allow it to be marketed as isekai. |
I wouldn't say this is entirely accurate |
That’s why it’s only a bit like it  . Apart from the original motivation it’s pretty near forgotten, though, and a different cause for that motivation could easily have been substituted in a non-isekai fantasy novel. The reason behind his motivation has largely been replaced by something else by the end of the first arc in any case.
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residentgrigo
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 4:19 pm
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The manga adaptation is alright and this is neither a (J-)RPG wannabe nor a real Issekai. An actual fantasy anime here at last. There is technically a rebirth element but only kinda. This is a slowly-paced story btw.
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Iron Maw
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 7:20 pm
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Basically this sounds like Re:Zero or Torture Princess. An isekai in a traditional fantasy setting.
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Sven Viking
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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 8:29 pm
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That except isekai elements like comparing everything to the real world or real-world fiction, using knowledge from the real world to affect the plot, referring back to events from a past life, having modern real-world attitudes/sensibilities/manners of speech or behaviour that clash with the local culture, or referring to genre knowledge from fiction or games, are largely absent. It’s pretty possible to forget it’s reincarnation isekai after a while.
Many common isekai tropes like gaining a harem of underage slave girls or whatever are also absent (and not in a deconstruction-style “look at the way we just subverted a genre convention” way). There’s not even a love interest so far. Becoming overpowered is there to an extent but handled fairly differently from average isekai.
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