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If I wanted to watch a bastardization of a classic, I'd rather see the live-action Devilman. Anyway, I don't feel like paying 50 bucks entrance fee to catch a flick which I'll eventually be able to get on dvd in a few months.

Also, what kind of crap is that they only have limited seating for TK, but they don't have limits on the DN films?

testor: While I admit that TF isn't exactly Masterpiece Theater, its longevity in our pop culture shows it's survived the test of time.

And what I expected were robots with personalities, not robots who blow things up "real good". You can get the latter type of action in other Bay films.

Longevity does not equal "classic." Longevity simply means the toys sell well.

With a handful of movie exceptions, the cartoon had all the "classic" 1980s A-Team/G.I. Joe-style accuracy to realistic warfare of a Imperial Stormtrooper's rifle.

It's silly to compare the Transformers cartoon as somehow a classic compared to a typical Michael Bay film--they're both cereal/popcorn fare with tons of merchandising.

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Longevity does not equal "classic." Longevity simply means the toys sell well.

Then by that logic, Star Wars and Gundam aren't classics.

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With a handful of movie exceptions, the cartoon had all the "classic" 1980s A-Team/G.I. Joe-style accuracy to realistic warfare of a Imperial Stormtrooper's rifle.

You can say the same thing about Starship Troopers.

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It's silly to compare the Transformers cartoon as somehow a classic compared to a typical Michael Bay film--they're both cereal/popcorn fare with tons of merchandising.

That might be the case, but few will find Michael Bay's films endearing 20 years from now.

Just because one or more aspects of two objects are the same doesn't automatically mean other aspects of those objects are the same.

Starship Troopers the Paul Verhoeven movie remake? Sure, I'll say that.

Endearment does not equate classic either. Some people find pulp and camp "endearing."

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Just because one or more aspects of two objects are the same doesn't automatically mean other aspects of those objects are the same.

So you're suggesting that the Star Wars prequels and Gundam Wing are aesthetically superior to Transformers?

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Starship Troopers the Paul Verhoeven movie remake? Sure, I'll say that.

What exactly does realism have to do with whether or not something is considered a classic? We can't bring back the dead any more now than when Mary Shelley was doing it in Frankenstein, and yet no one denies that it's a classic.

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Endearment does not equate classic either. Some people find pulp and camp "endearing."

Again, I can use that Star Wars analogy to counter your argument.

Another logical fallacy: Using a part of one whole to misrepresent a comparison with another whole.

Actually, you were the one who raised the dismissive "blow things up 'real good'" as if that was a definitive criteria.

And again, you misuse a syllogistic fallacy.

testor: People who can't win arguments tend to pull out the fallacy cards to make their points.

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Another logical fallacy: Using a part of one whole to misrepresent a comparison with another whole.

It might be part of a whole, but it's a significant part of a whole which clearly undermines the appeal of the rest of the whole.

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Actually, you were the one who raised the dismissive "blow things up 'real good'" as if that was a definitive criteria.

I'm not against that approach on a minimal or even moderate scale, but that's clearly a synopsis of Bay's work.

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And again, you misuse a syllogistic fallacy.

That's not true, since you can't separate Star Wars from its pulp and camp inspirations.

If I wanted to watch a bastardization of a classic, I'd rather see the live-action Devilman. Anyway, I don't feel like paying 50 bucks entrance fee to catch a flick which I'll eventually be able to get on dvd in a few months.