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Le Fruit de la Grisaia (TV) (all seasons).


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Cam0



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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 8:17 am Reply with quote
HaruhiToy wrote:
Is it just me or is anyone else having a hard time swallowing the idea that a busload of high school girls and a teacher can go missing and in 3-4 weeks no search team has showed up to find them?


What I had a hard time taking seriously was how the accident escalated from survival to everything has gone to hell.

DuskyPredator wrote:
Oh, and Yuuji has spoiler[an evil clone].


Damn. I must have been watching the episode half asleep because I thought it was Yuuji. Laughing
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Gina Szanboti



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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 12:12 pm Reply with quote
DuskyPredator wrote:
But would Kazuki actually sacrifice her brother? I could see maybe wanting him to become a part of her, but some part of her must want to stop it from happening.

This sounds like a counterpoint, but I'm not sure to what. Smile I don't think she would, which is why I'm suspicious of K-Phone being real. But I might be suspicious because I misunderstood what she was trying to say to them (but someone else also got that vibe, so maybe I didn't). I still need to go back and listen to that again.
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 1:07 pm Reply with quote
I thought phone was saying that the plan was going to go forward to sacrifice Yuuji, that part of it did not think the girls would be able to stop it, and that was saying it was for the greater good. But the phone version was saying that the girls could save him, that they could intercept the mission and take him away. After all Kazuki considered her brother the most important thing, she grew furious when she found out he had been eating soggy bread, or played with some girl she knew nothing about. The one that would sacrifice for the greater good has her calculation, but not her heart.
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Gina Szanboti



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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 1:21 pm Reply with quote
DuskyPredator wrote:
I thought phone was saying...that part of it did not think the girls would be able to stop it...But the phone version was saying that the girls could save him...

Now I'm really confused. There's only one K-Phone they were talking to, though it said there were other subroutines within Thanatos.
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 4:10 pm Reply with quote
She described it as having split personalities, didn't she? Just think of it that way.
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Gina Szanboti



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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 6:12 pm Reply with quote
So she was displaying different personalities in the same phone conversation?
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 6:21 pm Reply with quote
I think Dusky made a mistake in their posts. The first one he mentions should be the hologram talking to Yuuji. That's the one that said the plan to give him up was going forward. The phone one wants to help the girls save Yuuji.
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 6:24 pm Reply with quote
Well, here's what Phone-Kazuki said:

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". . . the Thanatos System is a complex system with split personalities. I'm a subscript that exists to interact with the main script, and to learn autonomously. Sort of like twins with different personalities.

. . .

I am a script which has emphasized itself as an individual presence within the whole. I don't make enemies but bolster allies and choose the path of coexistence whenever possible. That is my job."


So yeah, I took this to mean that she's another personality. I have to dig up info on the one Yuuji talked to make sure they're different.
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 8:43 pm Reply with quote
I want a Kazuki app for my phone now...it would be like Serie only ruder and lewder. Laughing
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Gina Szanboti



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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 9:10 pm Reply with quote
Vaisaga wrote:
I think Dusky made a mistake in their posts. The first one he mentions should be the hologram talking to Yuuji. That's the one that said the plan to give him up was going forward. The phone one wants to help the girls save Yuuji.

That's what I was trying to clarify. I know that Kazuki talking to Yuuji was different from K-Phone talking to the girls, but I didn't remember K-Phone saying both that they could save him and that they couldn't save him.

As I understand it, Kazuki is sending Yuuji into the lion's den, but with his eyes now open and a plan in place, so it's not like sending a lamb to slaughter as the government was setting up. But I'm still not certain whether K-Phone was telling the truth about being a subroutine or alternate personality or whatever. I think we'll have to wait to see on that question. Or at least I will. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon May 25, 2015 9:34 pm Reply with quote
Vaisaga wrote:
I think Dusky made a mistake in their posts. The first one he mentions should be the hologram talking to Yuuji. That's the one that said the plan to give him up was going forward. The phone one wants to help the girls save Yuuji.

What I meant in my post was not saying it was phone was proposing the sacrifice plan, but that it was out of her control, that it was "going forward". I kind of said it awkwardly as I thought that it meant the implication that hologram was the one making it happen.
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Cam0



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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 12:40 pm Reply with quote
Episode 7

Ok... very confusing stuff. I can only guess that all the things the girls did had something to do with the rescue mission. What did Michiru do though? Did it have something to do with raising money? I guess I have a hunch what they plan to do with all that money.

On another note the Fruit of Grisaia VN is available on Steam. It's probably an all-ages version, but maybe it might be possible to get a patch that gives access to the adult stuff. I know some VN developers have offered these patches.
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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 12:41 pm Reply with quote
Eden episode 7:

Well that was fun. Not much else to say except for the buildup to save Yuuji this week. Makina got a nice little pink toy as well. I want to see it in action soon!

I wonder if Amane will ever discover who the voice of Thanatos really is though...
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Vaisaga



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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 12:49 pm Reply with quote
Cam0 wrote:
Ok... very confusing stuff. I can only guess that all the things the girls did had something to do with the rescue mission. What did Michiru do though? Did it have something to do with raising money? I guess I have a hunch what they plan to do with all that money.


Wasn't that confusing. Like you said Michiru was just doing some big trades to get a lot of money.

Cam0 wrote:
On another note the Fruit of Grisaia VN is available on Steam. It's probably an all-ages version, but maybe it might be possible to get a patch that gives access to the adult stuff. I know some VN developers have offered these patches.


Denpasoft has confirmed they're going to release the unrated version.


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PostPosted: Sun May 31, 2015 1:25 pm Reply with quote
Vaisaga wrote:
Wasn't that confusing. Like you said Makina was just doing some big trades to get a lot of money.


Ok, I rewatched a bit of the beginning. After actually paying attention to the dialogue, everything makes more sense now. Not that the details matter to me really, all I needed to understand was that they had something to do with the rescue.

Vaisaga wrote:
Denpasoft has confirmed they're going to release the unrated version.


I have seen the sex scene CGs (I just happened to stumble upon them!) and they don't actually interest me in the slightest (well maybe a little bit, but just a little!). From what I understand there are only a few minutes of porn in a game that has 50 hours worth of content. I've never played VNs myself, but if I can get it really cheap someday I might try it out.
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