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NEWS: Sentai Filmworks Considers More Gintama Based on Film Sales

dragonrider_cody wrote:

Anyway, I don't see how people would see this as a threat. It's simply business. If something does well and makes money, you continue with it. If it doesn't do well, you cut your losses. This is nothing but being upfront about it. Did people really think that if the Gintama movie did really well, Sentai was never going to look at the rest purely out of spite?

Seems to me the 'threat' is that their precious series might *GASP* get an English dub. They might even, shock and horror!, LOCALIZE it!

I think the only shows ADV got onto [adult swim] are Evangelion and Super Milk Chan in addition to their shows on Showtime such as Chrono Crusade (which was later on SyFy after FUNi picked up the license) and Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040.

Polycell wrote:

dragonrider_cody wrote: Anyway, I don't see how people would see this as a threat. It's simply business. If something does well and makes money, you continue with it. If it doesn't do well, you cut your losses. This is nothing but being upfront about it. Did people really think that if the Gintama movie did really well, Sentai was never going to look at the rest purely out of spite? Seems to me the 'threat' is that their precious series might *GASP* get an English dub. They might even, shock and horror!, LOCALIZE it!

Which defies all logic and reason. Which kind of makes you wonder,is the reason some bilingual releases don't do so well is because some blockheads won't buy it because it has the evil English language on it too??!!

Which btw they'll never have to listen to. Do some people not know how to use the settings on their devices to change the language track??

Excuse me while i go find a wall to bang my head into

Which defies all logic and reason. Which kind of makes you wonder,is the reason some bilingual releases don't do so well is because some blockheads won't buy it because it has the evil English language on it too??!!

Chagen46 wrote:

TitanXL wrote: tuxedocat wrote: Why dub it at all? The money would be better spent on licensing more of the show. Most of the jokes are so centered on Japanese pop culture anyway, localization is not really feasible. JMO. Agreed. Don't really need another "Case Closed" or "Shin-chan" on our hands. There's these glorious things called "Translator's Notes".

Which are appropriate, if not required on-screen for subs, not dubs.

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And I highly doubt that Gintama's jokes are that steeped in Japanese culture. And so what if they are? Humor transcends cultural barriers.

It really is for much of it. If the humor is derived from cultural issues, it can't "transcend" it. And yes, I'd say exactly the same with South Park, King of the Hill, etc. The only way to get around it is to pull a Shin-chan, because I see no way without massive rewriting. Even then, it would seem pretty difficult at times, without getting awkward or very contrived when the joke relies on what's happening on screen.

Of the top of my head I can recall: when they were looking for an apartment for homeless Hasegawa, who was living in a cardboard box at the time, and when asking for a 1LDK configuration (1 living, dining, kitchen) the realtor ended up showing them a doghouse (get it? 1 = wan = woof / dog). Another was some historical thing with the ghost of Nobunaga and his generals mixed in some KISS-like/Kabuki makeup J-rock metal band parody with Kanji on their forehead, referring to themselves with the archaic wagahai

I mean if they want to dub it, ok fine. But I would much rather prefer them to license the rest of the 254 episodes first

ARC-1300 wrote:

Which defies all logic and reason. Which kind of makes you wonder,is the reason some bilingual releases don't do so well is because some blockheads won't buy it because it has the evil English language on it too??!!

How so. If a product isn't 100% up to my standards then I don't buy it. I look for alternative sources that do meet my standards. If there is a ridiculous localized dub of Gintama on a R1 release then I won't buy it and will be fine with CR streams. Logically this is the same reasoning as not listening to the dub except with the extra step of letting my dollar do my talking.

Anyone else but me think this is a terrible idea? I mean I'm a huge dub fan, but dubbing this series is a big gamble, no? It be a big investment. Considering they already released some of it, and how long it is. Seems like Sentai is trying to be a really amazing company/very helpful to the fans, but perhaps at the expensive of business sense. Then again I can't see how well the show has sold so far, nor can I predict future sales of the movie. I'll just have to hope they know what they're doing on this series.

I'm not concerned that the quality of the dub would be poor though. Seraphim Studios besides having a misstep or two, has been pumping out some really quality dubs lately. And besides if anyone can dub a comedy it's these guys. Then again I'm really not that interested in this series to begin with.

What really gets me is that people are actually angry that we are getting something extra (possibly). And use that as the whole reason for not purchasing. It just worries me that if this serious does get greenlight for a bilingual release,people wont buy for reasons stated above. And that is something this show doesn't need,its just to niche to handle a dirty and petty blow like that.

PurpleWarrior13 wrote:

I think the only shows ADV got onto [adult swim] are Evangelion and Super Milk Chan in addition to their shows on Showtime such as Chrono Crusade (which was later on SyFy after FUNi picked up the license) and Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040.

IIRC, Evangelion bombed hard on [as]. They gave in to the demands of the people who wanted them to air it, but in the end no one actually really watched it. Despite fair promotion and at a reasonable time on Thursday nights, it bombed. Everyone already had the show for years, and seen it OVER 9,000 times.

Showtime also aired Dirty Pair Flash, and a few ADV shows also ran on TechTV, such as Rahxephon, Abenobashi, and Cromartie High School.

Anyway, I don't see how people would see this as a threat. It's simply business. If something does well and makes money, you continue with it. If it doesn't do well, you cut your losses. This is nothing but being upfront about it.

Did people really think that if the Gintama movie did really well, Sentai was never going to look at the rest purely out of spite?

Yeah, I guess that's why [adult swim] refuses to air many shows that have been around in the US for a while.

I agree. While people are entitled to their wallet and can spend their money as they choose, you can't deny that not buying a bilingual anime release only because you disapprove of one of the language tracks is pretty foolish. Dub-only and sub-only, I can understand

but when the language track you like is on the disc, who cares if the one you hate is on their too?

You're not going to convince a vegan to buy a Chef salad just because it has tomatoes and the restaurant is having a down year. The reasoning can't be that damn hard to understand.

ArsenicSteel wrote:

You're not going to convince a vegan to buy a Chef salad just because it has tomatoes and the restaurant is having a down year. The reasoning can't be that damn hard to understand.

Fallacious analogy detected! It's more like refusing to order from a pizza place because they put peppers in the box. Lord forbid you should just throw the damn thing away.