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NEWS: Shiawase Pantsu Includes Children's Panties as Promo


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:58 pm Reply with quote
Nagisa wrote:
I wonder. Will this be the line lolicon crosses that finally generates a crippling social and legal backlash against it?

No. They already have child kidnapping/rape/murders that have a much more profound effect than a pair of panties.

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And if not, just how low will it have to stoop before that actually happens?


More child kidnapping/rape/murders....
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Fallcon



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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:07 pm Reply with quote
So... the first time i read this i was a little scared, about how people look at little girls.
But than again i'm sure everything will turn out ok in the end. But just to be sure.
Can anyone find out how many reported cases of child actually have happened in japan.
So everyone know, being exposed to that kinda porn will turn you into someone who will do it in real like. Or does it help stop them from trying.
(So far from what i have seen, no-one exposed to it will increase the chance of become more attrached to children.)
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:27 pm Reply with quote
So this would be available where?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 10:48 pm Reply with quote
outlawwolf wrote:
Girls there just need to be more assertive. If some guy in a train has enough balls to grab their ass, then the girls should have enough balls to punch them in the nose. Either that, or some of the guys in the train should step up for once instead of look away. And I'll just assume that whatver wildarms had to say up there was out of sarcasm.


Or the could do what Eriko did in High School Girls: stab their hand with a pen/pencil.

I have a bit of a lolicon myself (more on the ephobophilia/older age group side though) and this disgusts me.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2006 11:08 pm Reply with quote
Out of curiosity, was the Cyzo article something that came in the actual magazine, or their e-mail list?
If it's from their free e-mail listings then I might sign up for it.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 12:58 am Reply with quote
Fallcon wrote:
Can anyone find out how many reported cases of child (abuse) actually have happened in japan.


Quite a lot. The problem is, Japanese society is still largely a country that ostracises victims as much as (or more than) the guilty parties. You'd expect that sort of thing with kids, but even the adults do it. A lot. So the vast majority of sexual crimes never get reported. The social norm is to just keep it bottled up until it eats them alive, like Shinji, or the kids grow into teenagers that bully other kids and prostitute themselves. Both are epidemic social issues in Tokyo, and are so shameful most people don't want to discuss them.

One Japanese friend of mine once told me that the average age of losing one's virginity in Tokyo is now around 10. I certainly hope he was exaggerating.

I'm told the social norms are turning around, as Japan's attitudes become more Westernized and the Suffering Salaryman becomes less appealing to younger crowds. I've often said America gets its power from its people's ability to complain obnoxiously and loudly -- Society listens, and tries to fix and prevent it, with mixed results, but we're generally better off for it. Japan is VERY VERY SLOWLY turning in this direction, but it could be more than a generation before more than 50% of victimization gets reported.

Lolicon, like rape porn, makes victimization seem all that much more acceptable, and while I'm hesitant to say it should be made illegal, it most certainly should not be made. There's not much that makes me happy that the US is so closed-minded about sexual talk and nudity, but this is one of them. There HAS to be a happy medium.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:23 am Reply with quote
Just to put this in perspective, I did a little research. Here's what I found. Hopefully it'll make some people feel at least a LITTLE better.

Akaneshinsha is a small, porn-only publishing company. I've never heard of them, even though they carry quite a few adult products at the NYC Book-Off I frequent, so their distribution is probably very small. I also saw only magazines -- no tankoubon. So I'm sure they're desperate for any attention they can get. Anything that gets people's attention boosts sales. Scummy little cheap trash publications like this are usually a) always broke, b) are run by coke-heads, and c) have no scruples. Their website backs this up, as its design is worse than was the norm for a Geocities website circa 1997.

Here's what kind of porn manga anthologies I saw on their website:
- High school porn (okay, normal for manga...)
- Office lady porn (Almost too normal!)
- Lolicon porn (we knew that)
- Shotacon porn (not surprising)
- Hardcore bondage porn (getting disturbing)
- Gigantic breast porn (meh)
- "Mama" porn (EWW!)
- Bestiality porn (DOUBLE EWW!!)

Now that we have established that this is a pretty far-flung perversion manga company we are talking about, this doesn't seem so out-there and shocking. Or maybe I just worked on Anime18 DVD's for too long.

Disgusting side-note: spoiler[I've never seen shota-con porn up-close before. Don't they know boys have to go through puberty before they can do some of the stuff they picture? I guess I'm glad they don't know.]
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:30 am Reply with quote
jsevakis wrote:
Akaneshinsha is a small, porn-only publishing company. I've never heard of them, even though they carry quite a few adult products at the NYC Book-Off I frequent, so their distribution is probably very small. I also saw only magazines -- no tankoubon.

It's porn-only, but I wouldn't call it small, and it carries quite a lot of tankoubon. Visit some 4chan-like picture boards and you'll see how many they are.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 1:32 am Reply with quote
*in best Chii impression* PANTSU PANTSU PANTSU...


i wonder if you'd be arrested for importing this. even if you didn't do anything wrong, it still looks pretty damn supsicious.

wildarmsheero wrote:
Sigh, so much hate towards us pedophiles Anime cry

I see nothing wrong with be attracted to little girls. I guess I would say that as I am sexually attracted to little girls. Very much so. This panty stuff is really no big deal. It's dumb for anyone to get their panites in a knot (get it?!) over this.


so i guess i'll ask what if someone was ogling your little sister and/or daughter like that?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 2:12 am Reply with quote
While I personally find the promotion distasteful and more than a little sickening, I fail to see what the brouhaha is about. Beyond raising your eyebrow, this is hardly news to someone already aware of the existence of the lolicon 'subculture'.

First of all, this is a publicity stunt by a porn publisher targeting established and new/future readers. Their target audience are already paedophiles to begin with.

Second: it's not like these people face much difficulty getting those panties in the first place. They're sold in every children's clothing department.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:23 am Reply with quote
Gee, I wonder how long before this news somehow infuriates some whacko US Parental Group and they go on some moral tyrade over this.

Heck, it might spaw something much more worse that the PROTECT Act of 2003.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:08 am Reply with quote
dormcat wrote:
It's porn-only, but I wouldn't call it small, and it carries quite a lot of tankoubon. Visit some 4chan-like picture boards and you'll see how many they are.


You know that this is a bad idea for the average person.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 5:46 am Reply with quote
v1cious wrote:
*in best Chii impression* PANTSU PANTSU PANTSU...


i wonder if you'd be arrested for importing this. even if you didn't do anything wrong, it still looks pretty damn supsicious.

wildarmsheero wrote:
Sigh, so much hate towards us pedophiles Anime cry

I see nothing wrong with be attracted to little girls. I guess I would say that as I am sexually attracted to little girls. Very much so. This panty stuff is really no big deal. It's dumb for anyone to get their panites in a knot (get it?!) over this.


so i guess i'll ask what if someone was ogling your little sister and/or daughter like that?
I only pray to God he has access to neither. To wildarmsheero, Sick F***er! Seek therapy! If I owned this site I'd ban your sorry pethetic arse from here for life for just boasting about. If you're just joking, it's not funny. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:55 am Reply with quote
space clam wrote:
dormcat wrote:
It's porn-only, but I wouldn't call it small, and it carries quite a lot of tankoubon. Visit some 4chan-like picture boards and you'll see how many they are.


You know that this is a bad idea for the average person.


At least she didn't identify the specific chan board by name.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 7:28 am Reply with quote
Leave them be. Its their fetish so leave them alone. No humans were harmed in the production of that magazine.

Trying to tie that into the rise of child abuse crimes is meaningless. No meaningful correlation. Trying to look at crime statistics and feel smug is equally inane. Its not as if the rates are that much higher then wherever you're posting that from. Human rights? Completely irrelevent. Lolicon fetishist do not violate any human right by having their specific interests.

You may not be a lolicon but there's nothing good that can come from trying to promote hate against them. Nor is there anything more then self righteous bigotry in trying to appear superior to them.

The same applies for all the other deviant interests that do not harm innocent people.

P.S. The 4chan boards and their spinoffs are not a hideous hive of scum as some would have you believe. See for yourself.

>>>www.4chan.org<<<

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