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NEWS: One Piece Manga Has 300 Million Copies in Print

Thatguy3331 wrote:

Sewingrose wrote: Sometimes when you look at that these numbers and your mind boggles at that level of popularity, how many people are buying it, and you think, "Can a series really be that good with that many fans?" And then you remember actually reading it, and you realize, yes, yes it can. Indeed, as someone who reads/watches many other different types of series as well I often forget why I keep up with one piece, but then I just re-watch of the older episodes or read the latest chapter and automatically remember. People can call One Piece overrated as much as they want, but by damn it it must be worth SOMETHING if so many different people are fans of it.

I remember debating with someone on MAL in this regard, he said that One Piece is just average, with below average characters, below average story telling and subjectively bad art. I brought up the topic of top selling manga, and he told me that top selling doesn't guarantee it's quality, and I told him it sold 3 times greater than the 2nd place, selling 4mil copies per volume, and he went out and insults the 4mil people that are buying OP manga in Japan, now you see how ridiculously rude he is? He even called me an idiot, not once, but many times, I was wondering how did his parents raised him. That typemoon fanboy, went out as far as to wank at everything typemoon related, and step on every other non-typemoon works. He holds his own opinion higher than the 4mil people who bought OP manga, sigh.. Typical selfish human. /rant over.

Ginsan wrote:

Thatguy3331 wrote: Sewingrose wrote: Sometimes when you look at that these numbers and your mind boggles at that level of popularity, how many people are buying it, and you think, "Can a series really be that good with that many fans?" And then you remember actually reading it, and you realize, yes, yes it can. Indeed, as someone who reads/watches many other different types of series as well I often forget why I keep up with one piece, but then I just re-watch of the older episodes or read the latest chapter and automatically remember. People can call One Piece overrated as much as they want, but by damn it it must be worth SOMETHING if so many different people are fans of it. I remember debating with someone on MAL in this regard, he said that One Piece is just average, with below average characters, below average story telling and subjectively bad art. I brought up the topic of top selling manga, and he told me that top selling doesn't guarantee it's quality, and I told him it sold 3 times greater than the 2nd place, selling 4mil copies per volume, and he went out and insults the 4mil people that are buying OP manga in Japan, now you see how ridiculously rude he is? He even called me an idiot, not once, but many times, I was wondering how did his parents raised him. That typemoon fanboy, went out as far as to wank at everything typemoon related, and step on every other non-typemoon works. He holds his own opinion higher than the 4mil people who bought OP manga, sigh.. Typical selfish human. /rant over.

I don't know who this guy is so I can't say anything about his character other than what I've heard, but what I can say is that that response is a bit natural once you really go into the depths of anime-fandom really. I freely admit that there are many series both anime and manga that critically speaking are better than one piece, and I also agree that popularity and quality are nowhere near one in the same. However when I made that first post I tried to be careful when I wrote what I said in that, many different types of people seem to like one piece verses what the entire anime fandom thinks. I've seen polls where its stated that people who are far older than the shonen demographic read one piece and as a person whose mother became a fan of the series I think I can say there is a bit of truth in that poll(my mom is literally the biggest one piece fan-girl I know in real life).

One piece is no ghost in the shell, cowboy bebop, FMA or even hunter x hunter, and that's just fine, it doesn't have to be nor should it try to be. I think One Piece is good enough to stand on its own as its own series. Yes, it’s not as mature as those first mentioned series, however I feel that One Piece knows what it wants to do and how it wants to do it and that works to its advantage hence the reason why so many different kinds of people like the series deep into anime or not. This isn't to say it’s pointless to be critical of the series, I do think a few of the criticisms one piece gets are valid ones such as the length of the series and that it’s tone isn't up to snuff in comparison to other series (though quite frankly the length doesn't really bother me that much and I pretty much grew to like the art). Regardless I truly find it stupid of said person to outright insult the fan-base like that, no matter how much you hate or dislike a series you shouldn't insult someone for their taste.

Thatguy3331 wrote:

Ginsan wrote: Thatguy3331 wrote: Sewingrose wrote: Sometimes when you look at that these numbers and your mind boggles at that level of popularity, how many people are buying it, and you think, "Can a series really be that good with that many fans?" And then you remember actually reading it, and you realize, yes, yes it can. Indeed, as someone who reads/watches many other different types of series as well I often forget why I keep up with one piece, but then I just re-watch of the older episodes or read the latest chapter and automatically remember. People can call One Piece overrated as much as they want, but by damn it it must be worth SOMETHING if so many different people are fans of it. I remember debating with someone on MAL in this regard, he said that One Piece is just average, with below average characters, below average story telling and subjectively bad art. I brought up the topic of top selling manga, and he told me that top selling doesn't guarantee it's quality, and I told him it sold 3 times greater than the 2nd place, selling 4mil copies per volume, and he went out and insults the 4mil people that are buying OP manga in Japan, now you see how ridiculously rude he is? He even called me an idiot, not once, but many times, I was wondering how did his parents raised him. That typemoon fanboy, went out as far as to wank at everything typemoon related, and step on every other non-typemoon works. He holds his own opinion higher than the 4mil people who bought OP manga, sigh.. Typical selfish human. /rant over. I don't know who this guy is so I can't say anything about his character other than what I've heard, but what I can say is that that response is a bit natural once you really go into the depths of anime-fandom really. I freely admit that there are many series both anime and manga that critically speaking are better than one piece, and I also agree that popularity and quality are nowhere near one in the same. However when I made that first post I tried to be careful when I wrote what I said in that, many different types of people seem to like one piece verses what the entire anime fandom thinks. I've seen polls where its stated that people who are far older than the shonen demographic read one piece and as a person whose mother became a fan of the series I think I can say there is a bit of truth in that poll(my mom is literally the biggest one piece fan-girl I know in real life). One piece is no ghost in the shell, cowboy bebop, FMA or even hunter x hunter, and that's just fine, it doesn't have to be nor should it try to be. I think One Piece is good enough to stand on its own as its own series. Yes, it’s not as mature as those first mentioned series, however I feel that One Piece knows what it wants to do and how it wants to do it and that works to its advantage hence the reason why so many different kinds of people like the series deep into anime or not. This isn't to say it’s pointless to be critical of the series, I do think a few of the criticisms one piece gets are valid ones such as the length of the series and that it’s tone isn't up to snuff in comparison to other series (though quite frankly the length doesn't really bother me that much and I pretty much grew to like the art). Regardless I truly find it stupid of said person to outright insult the fan-base like that, no matter how much you hate or dislike a series you shouldn't insult someone for their taste.

What do you mean by mature? And why do a title need to be more mature to be better?
Saying that FMA, Hunter x Hunter are more mature than One Piece is really debatable(I don't remember Cowboy Bebop nor Ghost in the shell so I can not really say nothing about them. I'm only sure in one thing, they are darker than One Piece).

Dislikes will exist to any series and people liking more other series too. About being unreasonable while discussion a series, that is something in abundance in the internet, people should already expect that.