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Zac
ANN Executive Editor
Joined: 05 Jan 2002
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Location: Anime News Network Technodrome
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 2:54 pm
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samuelp wrote: |
No, there's something more there than in other places of the internet, and it's not simply higher concentration of idiocy.
You probably don't care enough to find out, so just take my word for it.
To put it into a physics metaphor, 4chan (especially parts of it like /a/) has somehow undergone a phase transition from gas (random) to plasma (chaos). The turbulence of plasma is somehow ordered.
Although it looks random the randomness arises naturally from set equations.
It's fascinating to me (and many others) and you can trivialize it as "not complicated" all you want if that makes you feel better for not understanding it. |
I understand all of this.
There are patterns in the id-vomiting and it goes through changes over time, changes in accepted behavior, changes in groupthink. I don't look at 4chan and think "random" at all - follow any of it long enough and you'll see where behavior started, how it became normalized and eventually outcast. Other patterns emerge. It isn't some big swirling mystery, nor is it random. Once you understand the patterns and the behavior, a lot of it becomes white noise, sure, but then that noise changes signal and becomes something else.
I'm not trying to trivialize it but please stop acting as though it's this incredibly complex thing that only geniuses like yourself could possibly understand.
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jl07045
Joined: 30 Aug 2011
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Location: Riga, Latvia
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 3:21 pm
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Zac wrote: | I'm not trying to trivialize it but please stop acting as though it's this incredibly complex thing that only geniuses like yourself could possibly understand. |
No one is doing that. Obviously people may take pride in belonging to a group, but what is said here is that you'll need to spend some time in that place to understand how it works, which is true about pretty much any subculture that significantly deviates from the mainstream in behaviour.
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Fencedude5609
Joined: 09 Nov 2006
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 3:48 pm
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jl07045 wrote: | No one is doing that. Obviously people may take pride in belonging to a group, but what is said here is that you'll need to spend some time in that place to understand how it works, which is true about pretty much any subculture that significantly deviates from the mainstream in behaviour. |
Right, this isn't "elitism" so much as an acknowledgement that different social groups have different expectations, and 4chan (or more specifically, /a/, since different parts of 4chan have very different social expectations) is one of the more complex, and chaotic, to learn.
I haven't even actively posted on, or even visited, /a/ in over two years. I just couldn't handle it anymore.
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Chagen46
Joined: 27 Jun 2010
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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 6:09 pm
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4chan, and espcially /a/, isn't that complex. it's a bunch of people getting into conversations that frequently devolve into flame wars because the guise of anonymity basically shreds people's respect for others into pieces.
Being a model /a/ poster ain't that hard, you just have to hate your own culture , venerate Japan's culture as the best no matter what, and hate good anime.
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