Forum - View topicHey, Answerman! [2009-09-25]
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RogueJedi86
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AS hasn't changed their anime schedule in like a year. They did a bit of minor shifting with Bleach once for a couple months, but it was only a 30 minute shift, and they had bumps about it. Moribito doesn't get its own bumps, but it does get shown anytime there's a bump showing off Saturdays, which is often enough. It doesn't get major name drops, but it does get advertised. I've seen at least 2 AS Saturday promos that include Moribito, one of which just started this week. Code Geass is over, any promotion arguments would be moot now. Code Geass was a huge success online in the fansub circles, maybe AS just expected those people to watch it on tv, and spread the word of mouth online. They'd have no reason not to watch, as long as they had access to AS. |
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Quark
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What. You're not actually serious when you say that, are you? You do realize that one of the things that the States is founded on is freedom of speech. If they try to ban anime, then they're going against the principles that their country is built on. Not to mention that anime is for the most part fairly tame, and unoffensive. If movies like Martyrs and Antichrist can get released in the US without so much as a peep, than things like anime are pretty much safe. Anyway, as a Canadian, I've got next to zero knowledge of Cartoon Network and Adult Swim. However, YTV played quite a bit of anime, and seemed to treat it with more respect than Adult Swim seemingly has. [Rant]Personally, I think the problem is that people nowadays just want more Seth McFarlane cartoons, and any show that isn't completely nihilistic and hateful towards everything, while also catering to the ADD crowd is suddenly not good enough. I mean, Fox up and cancelled King of the Hill, which had a much gentler style of humour, with good writing, and likeable characters, so that they could make way for the Cleveland Show. Fox may as well change the name of their Sunday night line-up to 'The Seth McFarlane Domination' as, aside from the Simpsons, everything is Seth McFarlane cartoons.[/Rant] Also, sorry to any fans of Seth McFarlane. I realize he's not really to blame, his cartoons are what people want, but it's just frustrating that people don't want cartoons with proper writing and actual stories anymore. |
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eyevocal
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I tried to E-mail a reply to the Hey, Answerfans! question this week and got a "mail refused" error from the address the Answerfans address forwards to (which I won't post here). If this doesn't get sorted out soon, should I just post it here?
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eyevocal
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I tried to E-mail a reply to the Hey, Answerfans! question this week and got a "mail refused" error from the address the Answerfans address forwards to (which I won't post here). If this doesn't get sorted out soon, should I just post it here?
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pparker
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You're talking about entertainment for adults. Cartoons are for kids, you know, and we must protect them from finding out what really goes on til they are 18. Otherwise they might develop their own opinions and disagree with the way we do things around here  .
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rinmackie
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Quark, you apparently missed the last part of that paragraph, so here it is:
Which of course, would make it popular. 
Oops, forgot quotes. But yes I'm aware of the whole freedom of speech thing. But as pparker just mentioned we have this whole "think of the children" mentality going on here and cartoons/animation are still considered mostly for kids. Yes, there are some cartoons for older audiences but they're all comedies. The idea that animation can be anything more is foreign to most mainstream Americans. Though that's slowly changing, hopefully. As for Cartoon Network, it's mostly a kids channel. Most anime is shown on Adult Swim, which airs on Cartoon Network but only late at night when most of the kiddies have supposedly gone to bed. |
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ParagonDoD
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Hahaha, the Spice and Wolf response to the Answerfans was great.
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Splitter
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I'm going off-topic here, I know, but I saw a magazine ad for "Animation Domination"... it's Seth MacFarlene characters and the Simpsons crammed into the lower left corner. I felt sick. |
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Quark
Posts: 710 Location: British Columbia, Canada |
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And that's essentially what Fox was doing to King of the Hill when it was still on. They'd have ads, where they totally hyped up the Simpsons, Family Guy, and American Dad! but totally glossed over King of the Hill. It was almost like the show was an afterthought, or some embarrassing thing that they had to hide. I've been wanting Simpsons to end for years, but...not at the hands of Seth McFarlane. rinmackie - sorry about that. I wasn't sure if you were joking or not, but I've heard people express that sentiment in all seriousness. |
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jr240483
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it's cause of AS relationship with production i.g that's heavily related to the moribito series that it's continuing. Also it's not AS fault that thay have really crappy timeslots.They have to abide by the FCC's Rules & regulations,otherwise they would've had eailer timeslots which is unfortunate cause it's those bad timelines that killed most anime that shows on AS. In other words CN and it's AS block dont hate anime.It's far from it. Cause it's anime like Gundam Wing as well as Inuyasha,FMA,Cowboy Bebop & Big O II that made it's blocks popular in the first place. But those stupid FCC R&R and those timeslots really gave AS a bad rep for anime on TV. And with Naruto Shippuden on Disney X.D where everyone was expecting it to be on Adult Siwim or on CN, it really didn't do the company any favours in anime fans eyes at all. At least bleach is still popular on AS,and pocket monsters diamond & pearl as well as Bakguan which i like but dont like it's dub co are still decent kids animes for the CN block so anime on either CN or AS it's not dead by a long shot. |
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TarsTarkas
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I am grateful there is any anime on TV. Thankful for the invention of the DVR, otherwise I wouldn't be able to watch much of Adultswim's programming.
That said, it was AS's attitude on-air toward anime that bothered me, but it is probably as Brian said, that they want flame wars on their forums. |
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Prede
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(not sure if this was commented to before, but mine as well say it anyway) The R1 anime companies DO give Adult Swim money to air their shows. Geneon and Bandai spent a lot to get a ton of their shows on Adult Swim in the past. Funimation and Sony has done this as well. The only company that probally gets something back from the TV airing of their shwos is Viz Media, since their stuff still kills in the ratings. Normally a TV channel pays to get the rights to a show, but since anime iss so niche, and doesn't do very well in the raitings most of the time, the only way most of the stuff is getting on TV now-a-days is by the company who licensed it paying Adult Swim to air it. You see at first I'd imagine Adult Swim payed a little bit of money to air anime early on, but when it became clear that getting you show on Adult Swim meant the DVD's would sell a lot better, they got swirmed with companies wanting their stuff on their channel. Adult Swim really didn't want more of the stuff, but the companies figured out even if they have to spend money to get the show on Adult Swim, it will still make them more money in the long run, sinse it gets their shows more well known. I don't think Adult Swim really wanted to deal with anime that much, but they couldn't turn down cold hard cash. But this is also another reason why there hasn't been too much more new stuff on Adult Swim. With Geneon out of the picture, none of their stuff is getting on the channel anymore. Since Funimation got really big, they are now getting most of the new shows. And they really don't see much of a point anymore in getting their stuff on TV by giving money to Adult Swim anymore. It probally doesn't help DVD sales out as much as it used to, and they now have other means (VOD channel, TV channel, online streaming, lots of adds, etc) of getting the name of their shows out there to the masses. It seems to be working...sometimes at least. They probally won't spend the money to get another show on TV unless they really feel that the show calls for it. Myabe the new FMA and/or Soul Eater will show up on Adult Swim, but don't expect too much more from Funi for that channel. They seem to be tired of having to spend money to air their shows, to sell DVD's. |
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GATSU
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Probably because fan-girls don't shop at male geek hang-outs like Best Buy. Not to mention that fan-boys only watch anime for wish-fulfillment or gore and T+A. Plus, shoujo doesn't get the same kind of promotion as other anime. Does anyone remember the time they broadcast Marmalade Boy and Gals on AS? No? Well, there you have it. What else? Fan-boys of shojo don't want to admit they are fans, so that's a dead-end, too. |
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Dr. Wily
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I like the "Love/Hate" theory. If you go back and look at their early bumps on YouTube, they clearly promoted the hell out of their anime block. They loved anime so much they co-produced Big O season 2. Adult Swim pretty much started as the spiritual successor to Toonami's Midnight Run. But clearly, things have changed since the days of DBZ, when people would watch and eat up whatever CN put on at midnight. The viewership just ate up the Family Guy/Futurama reruns, and like any network, they had to cut what wasn't working. So, that meant a lot of anime. Except for Inuyasha. Inuyasha stayed around forever.
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ninjaclown
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I'm not sure what you mean, The Simpsons are about to go for their 21st season, but King of the Hill has been cancelled to make way for yet another Seth MacFarlane spinoff. 
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