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slickwataris
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Wow, big surprise.
Shark Tale was a waste of my money and a cheap gheto version of Finding Nemo (although this movie sucked too). Shrek 2 was nowhere as good as the first one which in itself was pretty bad. It's all about Pinoccio's thong. That's all I heard for weeks at school when this movie was released. The Incredibles definitely deserves to win this because this is the only animated film I've seen this year that was actually good. Not to mention the fact that I liked it a lot. And I would've predicted The Polar Express for the third nomination but I guess not. I haven't seen it but it looks good. |
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Gamelore
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Hey DreamWorks, are you happy now?
Now that your precious home-grown pieces of garbage are nominated, go and release an ungimped Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence DVD. Thank you. |
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ZODDGUTS
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Bah! I hated Shark Tale and Shrek 2 was nowhere near as good as the first movie was. I hope the Incredibles wins since it's the only good movie that is on that list.
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Jadress
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Frankly, I tend to agree. I didn't really care for Innocence, so I am not sad about it's lack of nomination, though I WOULD like to see more variety on the ballot.  I hate that any major animated American film released, no matter how much of a suckfest it is, is nominated just because it's there (Shark's Tale). I seem to be in the majority, but I loved Shrek 2.. thought it was hilarious, but by no means an award winner. I'll be rooting for The Incredibles either way, as it was an excellent film.
I despise the Academy in the first place though for bastardizing animation by making Animated Features its own category. Because no one freakin' respects animation enough to nominate a feature for Best Picture, or any of the awards live action movies normally recieve. Anger. |
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Tenchi
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But, in the real world, animated films will never win Best Picture, so it's nice to give animators of feature-length films an Oscar within their reach other than maybe "Best Song".
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GATSU
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Whedon:
I wouldn't call Spirited Away a "disney" film, and yet it beat out Treasure Planet. Anyway, it might still have a chance of getting an Annie.
Um, Wonderful Days got released on Dec. 31 in the U.S.
Belleville was a Fleischer-wannabe, and just as dark as Innocence, maybe even more, with its awful animal cruelty. And once again, T2 and Matrix could be considered "sci-fi mind-f**k" films too. Tenchi:
True. They should've gotten Ebert to review it.
Corpse Bride's success depends on whether Tim Burton can still sell anything after his last two flops. Wallace and Gromit already won as a short, so the Academy may not be willing to reward a longer version of the film.
And an excuse to continue avoid paying the family of the creator. Angel:
I think the real problem is there aren't enough slots for more choices, and they need to get rid of that stupid "15 films for 5 categories" rule. Because it means that Disney and Dreamworks can dominate the category, since they produce the most animated films per year. Schu:
I think it deserved to be nominated, given Oshii's contributions to the industry, regardless of the quality of his latest(last?)work.
It just got a better reception at Cannes than Innocence. taco:
Because most of the people who give awards are old and white? I know someone who does work for Geneon who told me that they occasionally asked him, "Do you still watch those oriental cartoons?" tsi:
Japan has to submit Howl for Best Foreign Film first. cactus:
It made money. wolf: Cars is pushed back to 2006. Robots looks even lamer than A Bug's Life. |
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Toboe
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The Incredibles was an excellent film. The fact that it's also nominated for Best Original Screenplay should say something.
It was light years better than Innocence, and the fact that it's a lock (meaning the other films have absolutely no chance of winning this award) means that everyone bitching in this thread about the bloated, pretentious GITS2 not being nominated for any awards should shut up. The best animated film of the year is going to win. The end. Edit: the real question is, how did Shark Tale get nominated over The Polar Express or even Spongebob Squarepants: The Movie? |
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Haiseikoh 1973
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Bribery. |
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AnimeHeretic
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I saw nothing from anime this year that looked like it was worth nominating. The last time something from anime should have won were when the pair of Satoshi Kon films Millenium Actress and Tokyo Godfathers failed to get nominated.
The only thing from Japan this year (in that it was in US theaters in 2004) that might have had the quality to get in was Takeshi Kitano's Zatoichi [quote=GATSU]I think it deserved to be nominated, given Oshii's contributions to the industry, regardless of the quality of his latest(last?)work.[/quote] Oshii deserves to be forced to apologize to all the manga artists who's works he arbitrarily ruined because he thought he knew better how to tell the story. Last good film by Oshii "Only You." 
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mrgazpacho
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As Cloe almost mentioned in passing, the only reason the original 3 W&G shorts didn't go 3-for-3 is because the first one was up against another film from the same studio 
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Schunoko
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And that's what something like a lifetime achievement award is for. Not a Best Animated Feature of 2004 award is for. It's like saying Incredibles got nominated because Brad Bird got such little recognition for Iron Giant, IMHO one of the best and most underappreciated animated films of all time. |
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hkrok76
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happens all the time. a movie gets ignored, the director makes a new film the next year, might not be as good, but gets the nod because hey..."we screwed up last year" a lifetime achievement award to a foreigner? HAH! Shark Tale being the third nominee might have been one of the worst announcements for the oscars, but the entire list is pretty skewed and bad. Boo to the Oscars. I doubt Howl or Steamboy will get nominated, so I'm not going to expect much. Oscars is biased and does not respect Animation all that much, otherwise I feel that the Incredibles should have gotten the best Picture nod, but whatever. It's an opinion. That's what the Oscars are. The opinions of a bunch of suits that would rather reward people who can make them money, and also actors and crew that would rather reward their friends then to actually, without bias, look at the worth of a film and judge it on that. I liked Innocence. I've seen previous Oshii films, and I knew what to expect, most people that watched it or most people you might expect has a say in the Oscars nominations probably don't. They probably didn't even watch the movie. Seriously, Polar Express or even Sponge Bob not getting the third slot is just rank. Again, boo to the Oscars. |
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Gamelore
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I've given up on the Oscars since 2002 when Fellowship lost to Beautiful Mind (one of the *worst* movies of 2001) and Halle Barry won vs Nicole Kidman (who they gave it to in 2003 for a lesser performance as their way of saying, "oops, we messed up last year") as Cirque du Soleil acrobats flipped all over the stage.
It's nothing a popularity/sympathy contest now. I'm kind of surprised they still had enough decent judges left to give it to Braveheart in '96. I find the Oscars repulsive. |
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Sydney2K
Posts: 219 Location: Australia |
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I note that no one has mentioned anything about the best animated short, so I will go out on a limb and say that the Australian film, "Birthday Boy" (Sejong Park and Andrew Gregory) will emulate "Harvie Krumpet" last year and show the superiority of Australian animators over all other animators in the world.
Just to make it anime on-topic Sejong Park loves Ghibli films, mentions Miyazaki as an influence and wants to make films on the same thematic atmosphere as Miyazaki. Widya Santoso -- Oh, is my bias showing? |
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mrgazpacho
Posts: 316 Location: Australia |
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You're lucky you posted that on Australia Day mate, or we'd have a lynch mob after us! 
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