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NEWS: Google: Unauthorized Manga Site Is Among Top 1,000 Sites

I don't think the numbers of viewers shows an good example of the number of lost sales for the manga industry as a whole ...

The question is though is can these developers continue at that rate though?

...as according to most of the sideline people these are start-ups trying to do what they feel is customer demand (or at least flipping a pure consumer into buying customer) and are still getting blasted apart.

Its hard to change consumer habbits, so I wonder what would happen if they shut the site down? Sence every manga fan uses that site, what would they do?

Whether it's 90% or 25% that's way to much for something that is released online like people say they want, can set (pay what you want bundle) or at a reasonable price of say $10 to $20 an investment but not bank or allowance breaking, and with no DRM at all. (0% from a DRM free game you can download as long as you have an internet and a computer, all regions and that is what they got for their troubles and you wonder why others are so hesitant to enter or are in terms of gaming moving to different platforms to express themselves?

sigh PJ when an independent company releases a game they make on their own as a direct download before, during and after the bundle how many middlemen are there? Or if your independent company only has one IP how many tent poles does your company have?

Whether it's 90% or 25% that's way to much for something that is released online like people say they want, can set (pay what you want bundle) or at a reasonable price of say $10 to $20 an investment but not bank or allowance breaking, and with no DRM at all. ( a DRM free game you can download as long as you have an internet and a computer, all regions and that is what they got for their troubles and you wonder why others are so hesitant to enter or are in terms of gaming moving to different platforms to express themselves?

This sense of entitlement, it needs to go, and fast, because if even doing what appears to be wanted has that kind of rate, then no wonder they would prefer alternative methods from that.

Seriously if paying a penny is too much for you, then you might have some issues that cannot be solved by downloading anything really (not an attack on you, just saying.)

And without a profit motive than what we get is a group of creatives that cannot sustain themselves by creating, they will have to move to something else to stay afloat, telling someone that a quarter of his created works were pirated is still demoralizing. Even when you say you can take it for a penny.

Also ones who are in support of such things have this amazing ability to demand change yet not really wanting to change anything, for example saying they should finance by character goods (they do that now.) that they should have see it before you buy it option (working on it, but yet somehow streaming, which is seeing it before you buy it is not good enough, we have too much video gamer mindset and go "ooh pictures" ) or the concept of working together with Japan and perhaps doing co-productions and more "original" works are met with resistance (as opposed to change that should/needs to happen.)

Put simply from some of the "justifications" I've heard protecting "culture" doesn't need to happen, it is pretty resilient without their stagnation. Preferably I wished there was someone confident enough in these ideas in 2003 to put a horse on the cart before every one jumped on the band wagon, but hindsight is 20/20

As to the last points, um yes that is a raison d'etre for some fansub/scanlator groups and thank you for pointing out how weird that sounds. As to the other points those are ideas and points of contention I've heard from those who are more "forgiving" of piracy, so for example with the they should focus on character goods, those don't require an anime or manga to exist, so basically it's almost telling sequential artists and animators they are in the wrong job to express their creativity, as some people would be content with them expressing it in toys. It's kinda happening now as animators in Japan are leaving the field with new ones treating it more as a hobby to pass the time and move onto something else than stay.

so for example with the they should focus on character goods, those don't require an anime or manga to exist, so basically it's almost telling sequential artists and animators they are in the wrong job to express their creativity, as some people would be content with them expressing it in toys.

So um tell me what series did Twinkie The Kid came from, as certainly he is a character and has character goods. That was what I was getting at, in that you don't really need a series to base a character off of, sometimes that may come later (**cough**Hello Kitty... first product 1974, anime came in 1987 and a co-production when it "hit" so about 13 years after the character was designed and had character goods) but sadly the animation staff might not have been paid as much as someone who could make a character from scratch and turn it into a product (as it is riskier and your mileage may vary.)

Obviously toys can sell without a cartoon, but the "make a cartoon to sell these toys" business model has proven effective (on children at least). Not that it necessarily does much for the non-toy-related art, since it's then subsidiary to the toys...

Outside of children, Evangelion socks and pipe-cleaners and whatever would not have sold as well without Evangelion. But actually focusing on merchandise seems like a bad idea to me.