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NEWS: Section23 Adds Asylum Session Anime Film

That seems to be what a lot of people on the interewebs say now, especially the pretentious people at mania.com, but if that's true why is Media Blasters going back and dubbing like four shows they released subbed only? They dubbed Bludgeoning Angel Dokuro Chan, Lovelsss, Kashimashi after releasing them sub only a long time ago, and they're going to go back and dub Strawberry Panic as well. If it was as cut and dry as you say, they would be doing that at a loss. Most of those aren't exactly "mainstream" shows, they're niche as hell.

Ghidra999 wrote:

That seems to be what a lot of people on the interewebs say now, especially the pretentious people at mania.com, but if that's true why is Media Blasters going back and dubbing like four shows they released subbed only? They dubbed Bludgeoning Angel Dokuro Chan, Lovelsss, Kashimashi after releasing them sub only a long time ago, and they're going to go back and dub Strawberry Panic as well. If it was as cut and dry as you say, they would be doing that at a loss. Most of those aren't exactly "mainstream" shows, they're niche as hell.

Gee, I don't know, but maybe those shows did so well via their sub-only releases that they generated enough profit that made it worth dubbing and re-releasing them via dual-audio collections? And it's not like MB is the only company to be doing that, as Sentai is also doing the same, and even offering trade-in programs for those who want the dubs but don't want to pay up again for what amounts to the same show but with a new coat of paint. People like to insult sub-only releases, but they've proven to be good litmus tests for some shows which would later get dubs due to them selling well sub-only.

You say pretentious, and that could be the case for some of the people there, but no one there is saying that if a show is released sub-only that there's no chance of it ever getting a dub later on if it sells well enough; they're instead saying that it's too much of a risk to dub at that moment in time. Tis better to play it safe and then reap the rewards if possible at a later date than try to put everything in at once and potentially lose more than you expected.

Now as for Asylum Session being sub-only, it is odd how Sentai isn't dubbing something that's only one hour long, but I'm going to guess that they got this movie for cheap and don't want to risk losing more than they paid by dubbing it if no one's going to buy it. And that trailer surely isn't promising...

If Sentai were having problems with finances and distribution severe enough that they would alone prevent the dubbing of a 60 minute movie, then wouldn't they have also prevented the dubbing of Clannad theatrical and Needless which are being released in the same month? Also, distribution problems would likely also cause shipment and street date delays, which so far Sentai has been the only R1 to generally avoid (with the noted exceptions of the one day delay for the Canaan bluray set and the delay for the Legend of The Dark Kin bluray.)

I think its far more likely they decided dubbing a movie many people have never heard of and very few seemed to want would be a waste of financial resources. As others have said, the trailer doesn't look promising either and will not likely sway buyers.

Considering this is Sentai, I wouldn't be surprised if this was acquired simply to open the door for more titles, or perhaps one in particular they really want.

Also, I find a lot of the anger directed at Sentai for not dubbing titles a bit funny as the only company dubbing more titles than them is Funimation, who literally has ten times the market share.

dragonrider_cody wrote:

If Sentai were having problems with finances and distribution severe enough that they would alone prevent the dubbing of a 60 minute movie, then wouldn't they have also prevented the dubbing of Clannad theatrical and Needless which are being released in the same month? Also, distribution problems would likely also cause shipment and street date delays, which so far Sentai has been the only R1 to generally avoid (with the noted exceptions of the one day delay for the Canaan bluray set and the delay for the Legend of The Dark Kin bluray.) I think its far more likely they decided dubbing a movie many people have never heard of and very few seemed to want would be a waste of financial resources. As others have said, the trailer doesn't look promising either and will not likely sway buyers. Considering this is Sentai, I wouldn't be surprised if this was acquired simply to open the door for more titles, or perhaps one in particular they really want. Also, I find a lot of the anger directed at Sentai for not dubbing titles a bit funny as the only company dubbing more titles than them is Funimation, who literally has ten times the market share.

Meeting street dates is not the kind of distribution problems I'm referring to. If Media Blasters can get a title to 2x retailers, and Sentai only ships them to 1.2x retailers, obviously Media Blasters titles will sell more units. So in essence in this scenario, it isn't the fault of the title. It's the fault of Sentai not having the kind of arrangements to sell it to its full potential.

GrilledEelHamatsu wrote:

Umm, what are you talking about? I've never heard such a thing. Name one instance on this forum where a bunch of people complained about something being dubbed. I'm afraid you're trying to make apples out of applesauce, buddy. There's no such thing as a large group of anti dub fans. Please stop trying to defend the irate and immature behavior of anti sub morons. You don't have to buy the title and your entitled to your opinion. But don't defend childish hyperpole. There are mainstream titles and niche titles,every single one of Section23's sub only releases are niche.

Maybe not on this forum but if you have ever visited MyAnimeList they have loads of anti-dub people. Not really anti-dub but basically people who say its impossible for dubs to be good or anywhere near as good as the original. I don't really mind either way, I actually find it funny that people can get so riled up over this.

Anyways what it comes down to is that if I really like something I would buy it with or without a dub. And who knows if most people do this maybe they will go back and dub it eventually. Look at Clannad, Tears to Tiara, Blue Drop, Ghost Hound, and a few others I am sure.

Dub vs sub eh?

I'm impatient so I buy when I can get it. If that means I have to watch it in Japanese when English subtitled than so be it. I'm down for a dub every know and then but they aren't as abundant as they used to be and I'm not going to wait months, or even years, to watch a show I'm interested in.

Dub vs sub eh?

I'm impatient so I buy when I can get it. If that means I have to watch it in Japanese when English subtitled than so be it. I'm down for a dub every know and then but they aren't as abundant as they used to be and I'm not going to wait months, or even years, to watch a show I'm interested in.

I believe it was Roger Ebert who pointed out that ALL animation is dubbed, as the moving drawings aren't actually alive and capable of speech.

mike.motaku wrote:

I believe it was Roger Ebert who pointed out that ALL animation is dubbed, as the moving drawings aren't actually alive and capable of speech.

I know that's been mentioned before but technically that's not right. To dub means to replace (or slap over) an existing audio track or over something that it was not originally designed for. And the original audio track is not dubbed even if the audio is recorded later simply because nothing to begin with.

It's common knowledge. Stop whining and begging for links. It's not our fault you haven't come across something that is a very old, tired, and common argument. It's not a straw man. A lot of sub fans are not anti-dub, but some are elitist jerks. ...