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The List - 7 Biggest Crybaby Heroes

Could people stop it with the over-quoting? It looks fugly as hell. Just quote the relevant stuff please.

Glad to oblige. The tragic structure is so fascinating to me because you see it so rarely nowadays.

It almost seems as though tragedy itself has become synonymous with Shakespeare to people (which is interesting in its own right).

Though I realize that Drama is more profitable because the ending is likely to leave people with less of a downer ending; but according to Aristotle, the ending of a tragedy is meant to be cathartic. It's meant to be a release (like Macbeth's death in the titular play) and I think a lot more people would be less shy towards tragedy if they knew that.

It's been wonderful talking with you, by the way.

He's not a crybaby. He's got a gun in his heart.

About Jacuzzi Splot:
For me, a "crybaby" is someone who always whines about the things that happened to them or could happen to them. They rely on others and have no ideas for themselves how they can achieve their goals. If they have own goals at all...
Jacuzzi Splot thinks, acts, takes the initiative and can also take the lead. He is even pretty effective. He does not cry for himself, but because of the stuff he could do to others. So I agree with this:

penguintruth wrote:

He's not a crybaby. He's got a gun in his heart.

About Sakura Card Captor: I also don't think she deserves to be on the list. There are much more worthy candidates.

I really don't recall Sakura crying that much at all. One of the major plot-points of the series is her ability to buck herself up by believing everything will turn out alright and then succeeding as a result.

zeo1fan wrote:

I really don't recall Sakura crying that much at all. One of the major plot-points of the series is her ability to buck herself up by believing everything will turn out alright and then succeeding as a result.

Me neither actually. Did she cry when spoiler[Yuki dumped her]? I can't remember...
She was sometimes hesitant and complaining, which would be more qualifying for crybaby, but she always got over that, like you said. That makes her a rather strong character in my opinion.

I don't recall Shinji being so much as a crybaby, as more just f***ing annoyingly thick to the point of wanting to slap him to make him wakeup and smell the coffee and sort his life out. In short, pathetic.

Mohawk52 wrote:

I don't recall Shinji being so much as a crybaby, as more just f***ing annoyingly thick to the point of wanting to slap him to make him wakeup and smell the coffee and sort his life out. In short, pathetic.

Exactly. When the teenage females in the show have more (and larger) testicles than the male lead...

Of course, they were trying to write Shinji as a tragic hero (I think), but they pushed right past that into some kind of emotional uncanny valley, and made him a parody of a tragedy, instead. (And left out most of the heroics.) That doesn't help.

Implying the female protagonists aren't supposed to be stronger than the male one?

I smell a dash of sexism.

'Comfortable' is a good word. It can be hard to make a drama's ending feel earned (Idealism overcomes) because people tend to expect a happy ending in the first place.

One of my favorite anime is 'Princess Tutu', a masterpiece designed to be a subversion of the tragic structure (no easy feat), whose ending winds up feeling completely earned because the characters are trying so hard to avert a tragic ending. I feel like a Drama might have a harder time subverting audience expectations because people are already expecting a happy ending.

It's a shounen series, that's a pretty standard implication. Er, expectation.