Forum - View topicEP. REVIEW: Classroom Crisis [2015-07-18]
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sunflower
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^neither did I! I think they can finish, considering the way they blew through everything in today's episode. The pacing sucks, and so does the animation when they go the Montage route, but they do get through the material.
I didn't think Iris was smiling in support of her friend so much as wistfully trying to put a good face on when she saw how much her friend cared for Nagisa now. |
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Gina Szanboti
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I'm kinda lost now. I'm not at all clear on how the trauma in the space pod relates to the murder at the supply gate (which came first?). Or the murders in Nagisa's flashback, for that matter.
In the pod, the man calls her Nagisa and the last hope of the Shinamiyas. When the grandfather is murdered, he says, "We can't let them take Nagisa away - we [the Shirasakis] will protect him even if it costs our lives." Is Iris actually a boy? Cause s/he's got boobs. >.> Mistranslation? Did the people that took him know he wasn't Nagisa? How could they not know what their target looked like, or at least know what color his hair should be? Have we been given any indication that Nagisa knows he's a Shirasaki and not the bastard son of papa Kiryu? I forget if he's had any of the flashbacks of the grandfather's murder or not. How could he not remember all those murders around him being to protect Iris/Nagisa? Unless traumatic amnesia is contagious... Have all his machinations been about protecting Iris and they just haven't let us in on that? Or, as is probably the case, my memory has skipped over all the important parts. I mean, both he and accountant girl have always known more about her than they're telling, so I guess that was supposed to be enough of a clue? And how do the flashbacks of his mother's funeral tie in? I guess they're gonna have to spell it out for me, because it's not penetrating my skull. 
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Hameyadea
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My guess is this: the origin of Shirasaki Iris (I'll refer to her as such until we'll learn what is Kiryū Nagisa's real name) is the same as Nagisa presented it, with her being the child of both households. However, because of the political implications it could create, her existence was kept hidden, probably so much so that those out of the loop knew only of Kiryū Nagisa's name, but nothing more. Now, at some point someone tried to take out the Shinamiya household, and during the escape the grandfather was killed, with the young (presumably) Shirasaki boy at the scene as well. In order to save Iris, the young boy took on the name Kiryū Nagisa and went out to confront the pursuers. Meanwhile Iris, who was already shaken up by witnessing the events thus far, went with a bodyguard into a spacecraft, but they flew into a field of space debris, which ruptured the hull and caused that flashback. Iris, after experiencing a double-whammy of mental pressure, blacked (and blocked) out, leading to her being having a psychogenic amnesia, most likely a PTSD. Afterwards, Nagisa was taken into the Kiryū household, and got a healthy dose of beating for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. Most likely after several years of playing the part of impersonating someone else, along with the constant abuse, made him think that he really was Kiryū Nagisa. It's a pretty common thing with abducted children who were held captive for several years. As for the line spoken by the grandfather, it was a translation error. He says (I went by-ear) やつ等にナギサ様を奪われてはならん。命に換えても守りするのだ (yatsura ni Nagisa-sama wo ubawarete ha naran. Inochi ni kaetemo mamori suru no da ), or "we can't have them take away Honorable Nagisa. [that person] must be protected even at the cost of our lives." The translator probably chose the pronoun "him" because that line can't be translated to English without a pronoun, even though in the Japanese line there wasn't one present. |
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Gina Szanboti
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Ok, that helps. So whose funeral do we keep attending with young Nagisa?
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Hyro_10
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@ Hameyadea
What an amazing response. I was confused too, so thanks. ps I like how you include links in your posts. |
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kgw
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The grandparent Shirasaki (that's the family name written), probably. I suppose spoiler[it was then when they decided to switch Nagisa/Iris for ?/Nagisa. And all this time wondering that Nagisa is more a girl's than a boy's name... ] Last edited by kgw on Tue Sep 08, 2015 9:39 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Gina Szanboti
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I'm not so sure - unless my memory is filling in gaps, what we can see of her jawline under the veil looks too young to be a grandmother.
I'd go back and look, but I don't recall now which episodes had those flashbacks, and they're so short I'd have to know where to look to avoid missing them on a quick skim. |
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Merida
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I enjoyed ep.11 quite a bit, but just when i was thinking "hey, that's not half-bad, perhaps i judged this show too harshly?" the final scene happened and we were right back in
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vonPeterhof
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Edit: Man, the show has all this amazing character development, and what do I choose to focus my analytical attention on? The subplot with all the political BS  Oh well, at least I learned something
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Birriaman
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So THATS who that was! I had dismissed the middle brother so quickly that I didn't even remember his face. Soooooo... Will there be tragedy fueled drama (here's hoping) or will the writers pull a "Charlotte"? |
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sunflower
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Is there just one more episode?
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Black Thunder 6
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Character development?
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sunflower
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My god that was a terrible episode. Aside from sucky animation and that ridiculous villain, the pacing was absurd and the plot turned into a Saturday morning cartoon. And I don't think I'll ever forget the 'vehicle' the villain created to exact his revenge, which was essentially a minivan strapped to a rocket.
Did someone just drop a Venture Bros episode into the CC queue by accident? |
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Merida
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Was this supposed to be some kind of experiment about how much ridiculous drama can be cramped into a single episode?!
This is easily going to be the worst show of the season for me. The worst i've been stupid enough to follow until the end, at the very least... |
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Gina Szanboti
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If you can just strap rockets on an SUV, why is A-Tec going to all the work and expense of rebuilding their wrecked fuselage? Apparently the important point is whether their fancy new engine is amazing or not. Just use a more aerodynamic car than a van, add seals for space flight, and voila!
Speaking of seals...Nagisa's going to need to hold his breath a lot next week, huh. |
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