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Gina Szanboti
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I understand that, but that's not what I'm talking about. She asked to learn things and do things in the beginning, but now when they want her to do something she just seems passively baffled and agreeable, rather than enthusiastic or delighted to have work to do. And even workaholics want to get paid fairly, which it didn't seem to me like she was. But again, I'm more concerned with how she's regressed to acting like a naive teenager rather than an adult office lady, who, even if she never had time to date, was surely exposed to plenty of office gossip. If she and Al are going to build a relationship, I'd rather it feel like equals rather than him being the mature older man, which physically, he's not. Like, he's almost never flustered, while she almost constantly is when they're together. Since spoilers are wasted on me, I don't know if I noticed whatever or not. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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ACｘS
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OH BOY-- Sei wants to be ordinary. No unwanted attention, no gossips, none of that drama (I'm like that too). But she can't just stand there and watch people get hurt, so she heals them. Not just heal them, but even regenerate their limbs. Maybe she can even revive the dead!. So now, if you feel like this is a bad idea, I'm on the same boat as you. Imagine if Sei were a Saint in our world. What do you think will happen? Basically a god who walks on this earth. Opening a big can of worms? More like a big can of shitstorm. She's going to get all the attention in this kingdom, and probably all other kingdoms if word gets out. She claims she knows this, but I'm not sure if she realizes the sheer gravity of the problem at hand. Everyone's going to want a piece of her. There's going to be at least one person who's going to exploit her. And you know what? I don't think her powers come without any cost. I'm calling it first if using all this healing powers will shorten her lifespan. So yeah, I'm pretty sure she didn't think all this through. Think about this: why is she called a "saint"? Not a god, magician, mage, wizard, not any other word. Saint: someone with powers or holiness close to God. You know the other common thing about saints? They're (almost?) always dead because of some tragedy. |
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Gina Szanboti
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Was there some hidden meaning in showing us the ass's ass?
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DuskyPredator
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The king seems to like her, but I wonder how his son will react to something that might look incredibly embarrassing on his part. They made it sound like he and the girl he declared a saint are at an academy, which reminded me of the earlier episode that mentioned a girl being disliked by many of the other female students for getting the attention of their fiancés. Apparently she doesn't have cheat powers or something, so I wonder what has been happening on her end.
But I liked other parts of the episode too, like how Sei has some good rapport with the soldiers, and did feel devastating when you see that one of them received such a serious injury. That she had to give up some privacy to help. I do kind of hope there will be some element of anti-overwork politics involved. I keep kind of confusing it in my head with the other isekai this season about a business women who was reincarnated after dying from overwork, and then has the single goal of never overworking herself or having others do the same.
 I had to think for a moment what you were talking about in talking about an "ass's ass".
Sei was being friendly with a donkey, so it does bring to mind over how humble she is. The discussion also eventually turned to the prince. |
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ACｘS
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"It is there and then, that the plain obvious finally struck her..." I just wonder about Kyle's motives. Why is he so adamant that he has the real Saint? Political motives, or just pride? It's clear that there will be political ramifications if the truth is revealed that Sei is the real Saint. But if so, then what about Aira? Clearly she has powers too, so it's not like the kingdom will cast her away, right? |
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DuskyPredator
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I think it is as I kind of gestured earlier, it would be incredibly embarrassing to have some case that he kind of ignored and turned away from the real saint and had been parading a false saint around. I think they said something about succession in there, so failing in these ways could be as serious as the saint having a big part of their culture their culture that could mess miss with the order of succession. The king could have decided to announced there that Sei was the true saint, but he decided not to, arguably the only real benefit was it to be publicly done in the court, since had made those concessions earlier, and the court probably would not have taken a refusal like did before.
So has Kyle been given a chance to save his reputation, or will it be a rope to hang it. If Aira is not going to be able to live up to the expectations being thrust on her, I sure hope that Sei will be able to help her, since she seems like an okay kid from what little we have seen. |
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ACｘS
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The most interesting segment in this episode is the girl-talk between Liz and Marquis, because I get to learn more about WTF is happening on Aira's side (notice how this show has been coy about exploring the other camp). Now we get the info that Kyle, Liz's fiance, is one of Aira's admirers. I was wondering why Kyle is fascinated over Aira. Why Aira, and not Sei? He seemed arbitrary with his choice. Was he guilty for summoning Aira over from another world? Still doesn't address why Aira, and not just both of them. So what's happening now? Kyle's still fascinated with Aira, which makes people think he's one of her admirers, including his own fiancee? This show is painting Kyle as a dick. I wonder what it's building up to. Is Aira the one Sei is destined to rescue, after all? |
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DuskyPredator
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Presumably Kyle, Aira and Liz are a bit younger, being students at an academy, while Sei is an adult who previously an office worker or something, has done some work amongst the other adults and is being courted by an adult officer. Perhaps Kyle's focus on Aira was part of some fantasy idea of a similarly aged woman.
Really not surprised to learn Liz was someone as important as fiancée to the crown prince, and as a contrast she has been shown as a nice person. With it sounding from Liz that none of the boys are fixing whatever problems are happening with Aira, presumably no female friends rather than grudges while the boys maybe are not too good, perhaps Liz and Sei might together do something. Thought that the subtitles were kind of weird, since they were saying the word "escort" and translating it to "date", I would have thought that escort would be the more fitting word. |
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Alan45
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Kyle did not have any part in the summoning. That was preformed by Yuri and the Mage Corp, which is why Yuri was in a coma for six months or so. Kyle missed the actual summoning as he was fretting about his appearance. Kyle is a not so nice person. That has been clear since episode one. He waltzes into the summoning after the fact and goes straight to the pretty girl his age and assumes she is the Saint. Since then he and his clique have monopolized her presence. He ignores Sei as she is an older woman and her appearance is marred by the signs of overwork and exhaustion. |
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ACｘS
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So that further cements how much of a dick Kyle is. Now I feel even more sorry for Liz.
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ACｘS
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YES! Just when I was wondering when we will get to know what's going on in the Aira camp, the show telepathically gives it to me. Such impeccable timing! Some of my conjectures have finally been confirmed. Aira has a good heart but is emotionally withdrawn and socially inept. Kyle is extremely self-centered and overly-protective. What does this make the two of them? A disaster. Aira actually knows what Kyle's problems are but doesn't try to stand up to him because: 1) She believes Kyle's heart is in the right place (not wrong, but Kyle is the classic "good intentions, disastrous actions" kind of guy) 2) To put it bluntly, she's submissive (she would rather make others happy at the expense of speaking up for herself, as evident from her flashback) Kyle, on the other hand... well, he's a dick. Imposes so much on Aira from the get-go (intentional or not), and hovers over her every minute, which in turn alienates her from others. Biggest problem of all? Kyle tries to do everything by himself because he's so full of himself. Forceful in ensuring Aira's welfare is taken care of. Thinks he has only himself to rely on to run the country when his time comes. Believes everyone is out to get Aira. Realizing that he f**ked up because he looked down on Sei for looking like a commoner, and realizing that he's a dick himself, he's trying to do some damage control. But guess what? A dick who knows he's a dick is still a dick, and he's trying to control damage all by himself. Still can't get over his own problems. And of course, Aira being Aira, she can't stand up for herself. Aira keeps depending on Kyle because she can't reach out to anyone else, thereby fueling Kyle's own ego and further isolating Aira, and the cycle continues. Can you blame her peers for thinking she's hogging Kyle's attention? Aira doesn't even have the chance to defend herself. I view Aira's experiences as an allegory. Sei is more assertive, and the people around her are more empathetic and considerate. What would have happened if Aira were surrounded by people like Hawke and Johan? Her life could have been so much more if only Kyle and others would simply listen to her. |
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DuskyPredator
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Yeah, Kyle seems somewhat aware of some of his negative traits, but he just kind of feeds into it and just made things worse for Aira. Like, you would think he may have some awareness that within his culture his keeping Aira around him all the time might put off the ladies, that maybe Aira might want some female friends. He either doesn't know his own fiancée enough, or doesn't trust Liz to provide something that he cannot.
It wouldn't be like I would be against the idea of breaking social norms where men and women are treated differently on dumb things like arranged marriages, but it isn't like Kyle is really some paragon here. He talked down about Sei because of how she looked and acted like talking with such a person is inherently beneath him, which is among his worst colours. And good deal of that is still his ego, even if he thinks he understands. He seemed afraid that his brother would use the circumstance to take the crown away, but said brother looked very reasonable and not the plotting kind, in what we saw. And it somewhat goes down in a contrast of Aira, that compared to Sei she is a kid, who couldn't even speak up to tell people what clothes she would rather wear, it will probably be very difficult for her to reach out to people outside, or speak up to Kyle. |
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Animegomaniac
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But Kyle's playing the role of the dick and not actually a dick himself. Kyle is expecting people to be against him, he's expecting a problematic transfer of power. The Shoujo audience "It'd be nice if he was nice", meanwhile Kyle is playing the Game of Thrones.
Kyle is full of himself? He's not an elected official or appointed by royalty, he was born to fulfill one role, become the king, which turns out is not a given for him unless he acts like he wants the job.
Yet I'm not foolish enough to call them her peers; Sei is her peer; The Court Ladies know Aira is higher placed than they are as a Saint Candidate from another world, it's why they're undercutting her through gossip. Elizabeth was the real problem here; She is a peer of the Saint Candidates but she seems more interested in drawing a circle around Kyle to mark him off limits to Aira. "As all the ladies have told you"... so she listens to the gossip..." it does not reflect favorably to be so close to someone with a fiancee." So Elizabeth thinks Aira living her life through choice? Wow and she seemed so nice to Sei. Oh right, Sei's not interested in something that is Elizabeth's... Kyle :"More importantly, what would happen to Aira if she wasn't the Saint?" I like Kyle, he's has a clear head and he genuinely wants to help Aira whether she's the Saint or not. |
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DuskyPredator
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I think that you are prescribing malicious intent. There is not a whole lot of evidence that Elizabeth herself is spreading gossip in regards to Aira, rather the other female students are seeing Aira being around these engaged boys and themselves spreading rumours, perhaps saying things like they feel bad for someone like Elizabeth because it looks like she is acting improper. Elizabeth said in an earlier episode that she was trying to stop the rumours, but could not do anything about, not even when Kyle won't even let his fiancée interact with her. Elizabeth is also apparently a year bellow, so there might be other hierarchal elements, along with how she is meant to curtsey upon meeting her own fiancé's younger brother. As for what would happen to Aira if she wasn't the saint, isn't it kind of the exact thing that would have been happening with Sei when she was considered not the saint? My view is kind of seeing Kyle and his friend so used to privilege of their positions, and they consider Aira a part of their closed circle by just deciding it themselves, that they are telling themselves that Aira is at real unfair risk of pretty much becoming a prisoner. We saw how he thought of Sei because he thought that she was some servant, I don't think we should take it to seriously what they think living a low levelled life for Aira would be |
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ACｘS
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JIIIIZASU! Interesting to see the discussion on the Saintly Conjury. It's almost like a social commentary about knowledge sharing in the current age, especially for medicine. Namely, if there's some kind of powerful knowledge out there but: 1) it's so esoteric that only people who understand it would care 2) it's so specialized that it's only used for a specific purpose i.e. killing monsters 3) it's so unstable that even trained users would get different results using it That's basically research is like in the medical community. There's a scientific breakthrough sometime in the past, but either it's so obscure and so poorly understood that people didn't record it for future generations, thinking that it might be useful someday. Sei tried to use her knowledge from her own world (i.e. videos games lol) to see if there's something yet to be discovered in this world. That's lateral thinking, right there. But now we know that the potency of Sei's power depends on her heart. How exactly? Based on how strongly she feels about something? Her emotions at that point of time? See, this is what science is about. Sei and Jude have been trying to make discoveries at the lab, and yet the biggest ones happen serendipitously outside the lab: in the garden when Sei was in self-reflection, and in the forest during a battle. Isn't that how the breakthroughs happen in real life? |
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