View previous topic :: View next topic |
Author |
Message |
|
Samurai-with-glasses
Joined: 17 Aug 2005
Posts: 628
|
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:57 am
|
|
|
Zalis116 wrote: | And just recently, I caught up to the most-recently-subbed episode (39)...according to the trivia, the animation QUALITY is supposed to reference Tengen Toppa Gurren-Lagann's infamously bad episode 4 TV broadcast, but I didn't see the connection. Episode 39 was very Gainax-y (and TTGL wasn't the only object of reference), and I thought the animators went all-out in creating frenetic fights and action scenes. I never saw TTGL, so maybe I'm missing something here? |
Yes.
In short, the "problem" with Gurren-Lagann's fourth episode was not quality, per se, but a complete stylistic wtf. The rest of the series had a consistent, if unique, animation and drawing style going while episode 4 was very different. If I have to mark out the main difference, it's that the characters' faces and bodies constantly super-deform themselves to express their emotions...so much so that's it's rather comical -- and the drawing style is also slightly, though noticeably, different; for one, all the characters' eyelashes are paid extra, and very curious, attention which creates quite a lol-worthy feminine impression of baddest heroes in recent anime history.
There's also differences in the way the characters move ("animated"), but I'm afraid I don't have the jargon to express what I see.
...really you have to see it to know what I mean.
Hayate ep 39's animation style is closer to this little diversion from Gainax than the rest of the series (notice the same constantly changing, emotive faces), though close enough in general otherwise.
|
Back to top |
|
|
kizzmequik_74
Joined: 06 May 2007
Posts: 302
Location: QC, Philippines
|
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:53 am
|
|
|
Zalis116 wrote: | not surprisingly, HtCB was reference heaven for me, even when I didn't immediately understand them and had to check ANN's Trivia (a section which rivals Lucky Star's trivia section now). It's strange, I've always been the kind of person who does laugh at a joke if it's explained to me. |
Aye, reference heaven it truly is. Unfortunately, the show does suffer a bit from repetitiveness and a lack of an overarching plot. Still, it's been a staple of my anime viewing for the past eight months. And unless the fourth cour becomes pure fail, I'm going to keep on watching it to the end.
I also laugh at jokes that are explained to me... Which is why I derive a lot of humor from reference-heavy shows even if half of the references simply go over my head (though my 'reference-get' rate in Hayate is loads better than in other shows).
|
Back to top |
|
|
Westlo
Joined: 03 Oct 2002
Posts: 1684
|
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:53 am
|
|
|
The Gurren Lagann ep (which looks awesome) and the other butler show (which I give props for mentioning Hayate indirectly a few times) have motivated me to catch up with this show.
|
Back to top |
|
|
Samurai-with-glasses
Joined: 17 Aug 2005
Posts: 628
|
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:58 am
|
|
|
Westlo wrote: | and the other butler show (which I give props for mentioning Hayate indirectly a few times) have motivated me to catch up with this show. |
Meh, the "other butler show" is pure fail for me really. Doesn't like the main lead, hate his voice and attitude, and everybody else feels cookie-cutter "lol, fanservice."
Though I do love your new avatar!
|
Back to top |
|
|
hentai4me
Joined: 25 Oct 2005
Posts: 1313
Location: England. Robin is so Cute!
|
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:03 am
|
|
|
Indeed, the new butler show.
I wonder, are butlers now becoming more popular in Japan or something? Is this new? Old?
|
Back to top |
|
|
Westlo
Joined: 03 Oct 2002
Posts: 1684
|
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 10:15 am
|
|
|
How can anyone hate on Tomokazu Seki's voice :(
|
Back to top |
|
|
omnistry
Joined: 03 Mar 2005
Posts: 1015
|
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:46 pm
|
|
|
hentai4me wrote: | Indeed, the new butler show.
I wonder, are butlers now becoming more popular in Japan or something? Is this new? Old? |
New butler show? What's it called?
|
Back to top |
|
|
Westlo
Joined: 03 Oct 2002
Posts: 1684
|
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:22 pm
|
|
|
It's called They Are My Noble Masters (Kimi ga Aruji de Shitsuji ga Ore de), episode 2 aired within the last 24 hours. I liked it, had 2 blatant references to Hayate in it with the background during the scene before the OP. Also Shizuka Itou's character Shinra (main female character op by the looks of it) mentions in the next ep preview how the main character transfers into her school where she is the student council president before another character corrects her by saying "that's the other Butler anime". Shizuka Itou is of course Hinagiku in Hayate.
|
Back to top |
|
|
Dorcas_Aurelia
Joined: 23 Jul 2006
Posts: 5344
Location: Philly
|
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:01 pm
|
|
|
I thought HtCB started to get a little dull around episode 20, like it was running out of jokes. Fortunately, the butler tournament around 26 or so proved me wrong and the most recent couple of episodes have been great. Also, Hayate in drag looks more girly than most of the females in the series.
|
Back to top |
|
|
hentai4me
Joined: 25 Oct 2005
Posts: 1313
Location: England. Robin is so Cute!
|
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:17 pm
|
|
|
Dorcas_Aurelia wrote: | I thought HtCB started to get a little dull around episode 20, like it was running out of jokes. Fortunately, the butler tournament around 26 or so proved me wrong and the most recent couple of episodes have been great. Also, Hayate in drag looks more girly than most of the females in the series. |
The butler battle part was soul destroying...I stopped watching.
But...look for anything by B-Crews (if hentai is ok with you that is). Until I realised it was HtCB I thought he was a futa as opposed to a guy.
|
Back to top |
|
|
Samurai-with-glasses
Joined: 17 Aug 2005
Posts: 628
|
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:41 pm
|
|
|
Westlo wrote: | How can anyone hate on Tomokazu Seki's voice |
I don't see how it happens myself; I think it's the character design, attitude (there's hot-blooded shonen Kamina-sama and there's, well, this idiocy), and downright appalling low production quality that did it for me. The voice just felt weird on top of it all.
...and according to wiki the voice actor did a lot of great roles too, I do remember how much I loved Chiaki and he felt natural then...
Strange.
But I digress, and this is the Hayate thread, so it's OT anyway.
|
Back to top |
|
|
HitokiriShadow
Joined: 09 May 2005
Posts: 6251
|
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:42 pm
|
|
|
I thought Hayate was great through the Butler Tournament and was spotty for the following 10 episodes. The mystery episode was great but the rest were mediocre. But episode 37 restored my love for the series and 39 was epic, the best episode in the series save maybe the 4th wall shattering episode 10.
hentai4me wrote: | Indeed, the new butler show.
I wonder, are butlers now becoming more popular in Japan or something? Is this new? Old? |
It's new and it's called "cashing in." It's also painfully cheap. I'm going to give it another episode or two, but I probably won't finish it.
|
Back to top |
|
|
Ultenth
Joined: 02 Oct 2007
Posts: 229
Location: Washington State
|
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:40 am
|
|
|
I lost interest really past episode 26 or so, show has really gone downhill almost as much as Shana II did in my opinion. Maybe if it picks back up I'll try to find out where is a good place to skip up to and start watching it again or something.
|
Back to top |
|
|
HitokiriShadow
Joined: 09 May 2005
Posts: 6251
|
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:33 pm
|
|
|
It has picked up, in a huge way. Just skip to episode 37.
I didn't think Shana II was that bad, I was only annoyed at the episodes where Shana and Yoshida just moped around feeling sorry for themselves, but its definitely picked up now. You can probably skip to episode 10 and be fine, but you need to watch after that.
|
Back to top |
|
|
Vortextk
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 892
Location: Orlando, Fl
|
Posted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:00 am
|
|
|
I've pretty much liked Hayate it's entire run so far. The last episode(40) had me laughing at the knight rider reference. Seeing Hayate power up to SSJ to race "Chitt" was good.
It always makes sure to poke fun at itself and that keeps me laughing much like Kyon in Haruhi.
|
Back to top |
|
|
|