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Top Gun
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If we're going to go down the One Piece vs. Naruto route (and I don't feel entirely qualified to do so, since I've seen about a quarter as much of Naruto as I have of One Piece), the reason I'd choose One Piece in an instant is that its main cast doesn't sink into that oft-abused shounen standard of good ol' fashioned teenage angst. Naruto's endlessly prattling on about how he's going to be the next hokage (believe it!) and stroking his inferiority complex to Sasuke. Sasuke himself is continually polishing up on his aloof, superior airs and denigrating Naruto (which doesn't even get into the total asshat he becomes later on). And Sakura can seemingly do nothing but fawn over her unrequited love for Sasuke and completely brush aside Naruto's good-hearted attempts at affection. I found the main cast (besides Kakashi, who's just awesome) to be, by and large, rather insufferable...and I only made it 35 or so episodes into the series. I shudder to think what my opinion of them will be when I finally get around to moving further. I actually did skip ahead and watch the climactic fight of the first series (I'm sure you know which one) when it aired on Cartoon Network, and though the animation was jaw-droppingly gorgeous, the whole mess of build-up flashbacks and in-battle posturing just left me rolling my eyes.
You know the main reason why I love One Piece? Because it's unabashedly fun. Even in the most dire of straits, even when facing villains that are truly sadistic slime, Luffy and company genuinely enjoy what they do. In the midst of these intensely serious battles, even after he's been pounded to a pulp, Luffy will still crack a one-liner or come up with a truly zany method of attack. I'd go so far to say that Luffy is far and away my favorite protagonist out of any shounen series I've seen. He just has such an amazingly unique personality and outlook on life. He doesn't undergo existential crises. He doesn't spend eons searching for the motivations for his actions. Hell, half the time, he's not even completely sure of what's going on around him. He just sees what needs doing and does it, all with a smile on his face. It's that refreshing sense of lightheartedness and genuine love of adventure that made me fall in love with the series almost as soon as I started watching it. (Also, that DVD trailer is awesome. I'd pre-order the first set this instant if I wasn't flat broke. ) |
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Mr. sickVisionz
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I like Naruto, but I wish the fights looked better. Naruto and Bleach have really cool looking fight scenes, but One Piece fights never look as cool as I hope. Although, i've only seen 1-73. They've had some cool bad guys (Shanks) and Zoro should always look insane, but it never seems to come off as cool looking as i'd hope it would.
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Ohoni
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Yeah, the OP tv series rarely brings in the high budget animators for the fight scenes like Naruto and Bleach tend to do. I think they did during the CP9 arc at one point. The movies tend to have better animation though, some of them are insanely cool.
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BrothersElric
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Once again, I really think this all has to do with just simply good 'ol personal opinion. I've always loved the characters in Naruto for pretty much the same reason as I've always loved Naruto himself. It's because of their imperfectnesses. I mean, aren't most of us as people unlikealbe? I just think that, and it's quite obvious that he does, Kishimoto wants you to not like his main characters at first, because of how those characters remind you of you, and aren't on a higher level than you, so that it makes room for better, at least more meaningful anyways, development. I've said it many times before and I'll say it again, knowing where the story is at at that point, I honestly don't believe giving it just 35 episodes is giving it enough of a chance. Heck, I'm not even sure you could say giving it just 52 (2 full seasons) episodes is giving it enough of a chance. And also what I've said before many a time and I'll say it again, I think that if the anime's "filler" techniques really bug you that much, then I'd go read the manga instead. At the point you mentioned, out of 41 or so volumes, that was only at about volume 6 or 7 in the manga. Yeah, not much of a chance.... But I have to honestly say that with maybe the exception of Sasuke, and for obvious reasons too (and even he's included in this to a particular extent, he just also gets worse at a particular point as well ), every one of it's characters does indeed get WAY more likeable at a particular point. I just feel like where they are at that point feels a lot more meaningful because of at what point they were at once before, and because of this I feel like the main themes of Naruto are as a whole more meaningful because of how easily one can relate to the characters themselves (not saying everyone can, just saying a lot of people can). But hey, you guys have your own opinion and I have mine. I'm not trying to change your minds or argue against you or anything like that, I'm just simply letting you guys know why I feel the way I do about the issue is all.
Actually for me, it's that very art style that 's one of the reasons I like One Piece as much as I do. I just love how it perfectly captures the overall feeling of the series in the first place, and I also feel like it gives a lot of room for a lot of the imaginativety and creativeness about the series as well. I also wanted to add one more thing:
Even though I had already fallen in love with the series beforehand, I have to say it was pretty much the same for me. I don't know if I really, truly knew just how much I was going to love this series until I saw that scene, and the scene after that as well. Great stuff. |
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Ohoni
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Yeah, that's what I meant, I already liked the series, I had gotten that far, after all, but I LOVED if after that. |
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braves
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The art style works pretty well in the manga, but it doesn't translate that good to the anime sometimes. Collecting One Piece on DVD will cost me a small fortune, not to mention all the other series I like.
If it helps ( not that big a spoiler)spoiler[ Sakura becomes more mature and she actually helps out on missions afterwards.] |
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ChronoBall X
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As for Onepiece in general,I'll say this and say it now,now don't get me wrong,I don't wanna try to start a hyped Naruto vs Bleach vs Onepiece war,I mean,I like all 3 just fine.
Naruto (it was good for awhile,but than as soon as it got licensed and midway through season 3,it started going downhill when it becamed way too overhyped Bleach (the soul scociety arc was good,but than the plot just started getting too weird in recent episodes,no offense,but the later episodes just did'nt interest me.) as for Onepiece,not because I think the artstyle was unique and cartoonish because it's one of the few original animes to use a storyplot about"Pirates" unless you count Peter Pan no Bouken, and unlike most storyarc animes,the Strawhats don't always stay on the same continent land to fight a different villian,like in for example,DBZ fight scenes always take place in the West city region or some other place thats closed to master roshi's house or Goku's house or whatever,but in onepiece,they travel to places like an ice world,dessert world,skypiea,I mean,it's like Oda took ideas from the Mario franchise or something.lol |
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fighterholic
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Granted, the Mario franchise is one of the largest in the world, and it has had a lifespan two and a half decades now.Whether Oda took ideas from Mario itself, may or may not be true. We know that Oda over the years has taken influences and ideas from several different sources, Mario could be one. |
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Top Gun
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Somehow, I kind of doubt that the Super Mario Bros. series was the originator of the "hey, let's place our characters in a lot of different settings!" concept.
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braves
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The official release date for the season 1 DVD set was yesterday. So please comment on it.
EDIT: I'll comment on it when I get it sometime later this week. |
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Wellness
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Actually I think One Piece took ideas from the original Dragonball more than it did Super Mario. In the OG series, outside of the tournament every four years, Goku and crew traveled to all sorts of places and encountered weird/enemies and the like searching for Dragonballs or ways to get stronger. OP has the same fun and unpredictable adventure aspect of the original DB series that is lost during the transitions to DBZ and the adoption of pure action super power stories that DBZ is renown for. But beyond all that the current arc is insane but in the best way possible. |
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Dark Elf Warrior
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I agree with you 100%! One Piece really is a good series with a great storyline, and for all you naysayers, One Piece is getting higher ratings in Japan than Naruto Shippuuden. As proof, check ANN daily news. They often have Anime TV Rankings, and One Piece is always on there, above Naruto. One Piece and Detective Conan usually compete for spots 4-7. (The higher spots are taken up buy Shin-Chan, Chibi Maruko chan and Doreamon.) Naruto Shippuuden is almost always in spot ten, lower than Pokemon DP even. |
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doctordoom85
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Even though I do like One Piece slightly more than Naruto, I fail to see how TV ratings judge quality (think of how many people were tuning into the latest generic family sitcom instead of Arrested Development.......). Especially with Case Closed (Detective Conan) ahead of Naruto. I like Case Closed, BUT say what you will about Naruto, at least the overall plot is guaranteed to advance if you watch 10 (non-filler) episodes. Even Inuyasha gets to the point quicker than Case Closed! Good show, but nothing I'd ever consider rewatching or possibly even completing for that matter (might buy the first few season sets for good measure and call it quits). |
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Chaos42
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nartuo and one piece are both good series but the reason it gets more ratings is simple the story is moving-one piece they are always moving around adventuring even the anime only stuff is about that. Naruto has the 200+ filler-stories that GO NO WERE.
right now im worried bleach is doing the same thing i hate filler that gets out of control |
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braves
Posts: 2309 Location: Puerto Rico (but living in Texas) |
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There were only 85 episodes of filler in Naruto. While some of the anime only stuff in One Piece is good, like the ones that go over Chopper's and Zoro's past, there are others that are on a Naruto filler level type of stupid (ie, Rainbow arc ). And filler doesn't go anywhere, that's why it's filler. Anyways, I might be going a little off-topic with wanting to talk about the manga. But, does anyone following the Japanese version of the manga feel that it's coming to an end soon? |
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