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INTEREST: '[New Life+] Young Again in Another World' Anime's Protagonist, Novel Creator Cause Contro


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encrypted12345



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 4:53 pm Reply with quote
I personally think this is ridiculous. It's fiction. If someone wants to make isekai heroic Hitler, then there is nothing wrong with that. There's already isekai Not!Putin (Ride On King in case anyone is curious), and Putin wasn't exactly the nicest guy.

Now, if you don't want to watch something that offends you, that's perfectly okay. However, vote with your wallet, don't guilt trip the company into not creating something that its fans may enjoy.
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MsVitchDa2nd



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:06 pm Reply with quote
So what this butt hurt Chinese guy is saying "oh no, they're gonna adapt an isekai where the MC that killed my people in a fictional world is suddenly transported into an isekai"
BOOOHOOOOOO
seriously it's because of overly proud people like this is why I'd rather have no friends Mad


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TichoSlicer



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:07 pm Reply with quote
Holy Sh*t, what a bunch of bullsh*t!
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fantaselion



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:22 pm Reply with quote
Jesus, can people learn that is FU**KNG FICTION!!! ITS NOT FU*KING REAL, GET THE FU*K OVER IT ALREADY!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:26 pm Reply with quote
I'M SO ANGRY ABOUT PEOPLE BEING ANGRY ABOUT SOMETHING I'M NOT ANGRY ABOUT

Is there a reason for the detail on how many Chinese people the protag killed, other than to indicate who the intended audience is?


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Guspaz



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:26 pm Reply with quote
Talk about creating a controversy out of thin air. The author wanted his isekai protagonist to be badass and extremely experienced with using a sword in actual combat, and threw in a throwaway line that mentions he managed to kill lots of people using nothing but a sword during the second world war. He didn't get any more specific than basically "killed lots of people with a sword during a world war". How many anime characters out there have killed lots of people with swords? Come on, people.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:29 pm Reply with quote
There is no explicit mention of what wars he participated in or exactly who/what kind of people he killed. Long story short, this outraged netizen makes a lot of leaps of logic in order to reach this conclusion.

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OP made this post on r/anime too so I'll post the same reply here. The author has indeed made disrespectful, anti-China and anti-Korea tweets 5+ years ago. But his opinions have nothing to do with his work.
There isn't anything anti-China in the original novels. This whole thing was made viral by a Japan born Chinese person on twitter until it was picked up by other media outlets. But the thing is that it doesn't reflect the reality. The original novel never makes a mention of Nanjing or Second Sino-Japanese War.

OP keeps repeating that he was in Nanjing in the other thread but even the timing doesn't match up. Also mind you, the fact that he has killed so many people is a part of the MC's backstory and adds very little to the story other than showing that he is an edgy bastard. The story itself is your run-of-the-mill transported to another world story. Main character keeps being ruthless doing overpowered things and getting a harem. Basically every Isekai story out there.


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MugenPancake



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:30 pm Reply with quote
[quote="MsVitchDa2nd"]So what this butt hurt Chinese guy is saying "oh no, they're gonna adapt an isekai where the MC that killed my people in a fictional world is suddenly transported into an isekai"
BOOOHOOOOOO
seriously it's because of overly proud people like this is why I'd rather have no friends :x[/quote]
LOL
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hatguy12



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 5:41 pm Reply with quote
Lemonchest wrote:
Is there a reason for the detail on how many Chinese people the protag killed, other than to indicate who the intended audience is?

It's not specified who or where he killed people, or even in what war. (I vaguely thought it was a "world war," but haven't read it recently enough to actually remember accurately.)

I'm pretty sure there really weren't any other details beyond one sentence almost literally saying "killed X number of people in war with a sword." When I was reading it, it came off as some ridiculous statement in the sense of how would someone even kill people with a sword in modern'ish warfare, and I am pretty sure that's how it was intended.

From what I've seen of this elsewhere, the comparison was made because there was a massacre where Japanese killed Chinese citizens with swords in that particular war. So participating in that would perhaps be the most historically realistic way someone would have killed many people with a sword; though again, I don't believe that detail in the book was meant to be historically realistic.
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meruru



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:29 pm Reply with quote
People who aren't Chinese or Japanese are also possibly missing the context that the Nanking Massacre was a terrible atrocity perpetuated on the Chinese by the Japanese, and certain groups in Japan are constantly trying to play revisionist, to the point of altering history books taught in schools and such to make it seem less bad, for instance. That kind of thing is almost certainly what the people who are complaining are reacting to. So this is an EXTREMELY touchy issue.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:37 pm Reply with quote
People need to stop being so soft, this is a part of history. The work is only fiction so there is no reason to get so heated over it.
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Vent



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:37 pm Reply with quote
meruru wrote:
People who aren't Chinese or Japanese are also possibly missing the context that the Nanking Massacre was a terrible atrocity perpetuated on the Chinese by the Japanese, and certain groups in Japan are constantly trying to play revisionist, to the point of altering history books taught in schools and such to make it seem less bad, for instance. That kind of thing is almost certainly what the people who are complaining are reacting to. So this is an EXTREMELY touchy issue.


Yeah, like maybe the guy's just a huge racist? That "bug country" thing is kind of telling too.

Whole lot of people rushing to the defense of some generic isekai author. "It's fiction" means approximately nothing. Someone created that fiction, with their inherent biases and prejudices baked in.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 6:40 pm Reply with quote
Vent wrote:
meruru wrote:
People who aren't Chinese or Japanese are also possibly missing the context that the Nanking Massacre was a terrible atrocity perpetuated on the Chinese by the Japanese, and certain groups in Japan are constantly trying to play revisionist, to the point of altering history books taught in schools and such to make it seem less bad, for instance. That kind of thing is almost certainly what the people who are complaining are reacting to. So this is an EXTREMELY touchy issue.


Yeah, like maybe the guy's just a huge racist? That "bug country" thing is kind of telling too.

Whole lot of people rushing to the defense of some generic isekai author. "It's fiction" means approximately nothing. Someone created that fiction, with their inherent biases and prejudices baked in.

Because he is referencing a historical event he is a racist? At the end of the day it's just fiction, if you don't like it then ignore it no one is forcing you to watch it...
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meruru



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:07 pm Reply with quote
While recognizing a difference between fantasy and reality is a very important thing, in this case the context is a big deal. Nanking is a big issue there, it'd be weird for him to not be aware of it and how horrific it was, and how the downplayers and deniers are such a problem, and how mad everyone else is. Then to write a protagonist that the audience is supposed to be rooting for who can be read to have participated in that, it seems kind of likely either he maybe partially buys into the radical rhetoric, or he is aware of how it looks and for some reason doesn't care. Or at least, that's what I think from my understanding of the issue, me being not Japanese nor Chinese.
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Vent



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PostPosted: Fri Jun 01, 2018 7:10 pm Reply with quote
-SP- wrote:

Because he is referencing a historical event he is a racist? At the end of the day it's just fiction, if you don't like it then ignore it no one is forcing you to watch it...


I mean, when the historical event he's referencing is a war crime perpetrated by his country during its attack on another country he has in the past referred to using a specific negative bigoted term, and he's using it as jokey joke backstory in his silly isekai harem series...

Yyyyeeaah? Probably?
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