Forum - View topicNEWS: Harmony Gold Renews License to 1st Macross, Southern Cross, Mospeada Anime Series
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Stampeed Valkyrie
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Probably the worst news I have heard in a long time. HG is a company that has produced nothing of merit since the 1980s and acts like a copyright troll.
I guess I will have to bite the bullet and import the SDF Macross Blurays from Japan. |
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Advent_Nebula
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Much of the blame can be pointed to naive fans that gave money to failed kickstarters or the ones that still support the comic line. |
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Commander Cluck
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If you ignore the current Robotech comic and other media, then sure, I guess we could say the franchise is dead and isn't beinf used. There's always been a Robotech comic since the 2000s. Various reboots, spin-offs, and etc. Even if you ignore the stalled live-action movie, and other projects, they're clearly using the franchise. Robotech is no different than Voltron or Power Rangers. A complete American focused spin off of a Japanese media where most fans don't care about the source material. Voltron is pretty much only driven by nostalgia, as is Power Rangers. Hell, Power Rangers comics went back to the original Mighty Morphin cast because of that reason alone. Sure, it sucks, but it's how some franchises will always be remembered in America. |
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Beatdigga
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Unlike Power Rangers, but especially like Voltron, every single remake or attempt to get a sequel off the ground has crashed and burned.
Any Robotech remake, if by some small miracle it did get made, would end up like Legendary Defender. No audience, bad toy sales, idiotic writing, and a general audience that had no craps to give because it didn’t feel or act like the original. |
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MFrontier
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Didn't they already recast him for that 30th anniversary game? |
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TheHTRO
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No, no, no. What you're being is insensitive to the issue by (essentially) telling people that they should just accept it and move on. However, considering both the history of the franchise, and the history of the U.S. company (and, as I understand it, the questionable way they do things over there), and how both Tatsunoko and Big West are involved, this is something (and there's just no other way to put this) that no one can ever really "accept". To be completely honest, they (Harmony Gold, I mean) screwed over the license for many years, even decades to come. As a result of this, it's very unlikely that anyone will be able to (legally; don't get any ideas) see the first movie in any form, or anything else that even has the "Macross" name on it. "Public domain" indeed! What you're saying is an insult to anybody's intelligence. |
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Cardcaptor Takato
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reanimator
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Ah, I forgot about that recent Robotech comic from Titan. I'm not going to deny that Harmony Gold has been trying to reboot the franchise with various means. Even though HG's focus is people who are not anime fans, they can sell dated show for so long. Nostalgia can go so far without new blood. So what if HG has Robotech comic book rehashing old story with janky art and possible live action movie? Are new young fans clamoring to buy Robotech merchandise thanks to reboot effort? Young people may not know the franchise's history, but they're savvy enough to find out what's Japanese or not. Like I stated, most of 80's kids grew out of it and recently failed crowdfunding projects seem like Robotech is not that hot. Where were all the older Robotech fans, even young fans, when those crowdfunding project were launched? I'm not talking about anime fans. Where are the non-anime fans for this? Even "successful" Robotech TRPG game kickstarter couldn't fulfill the pledge properly and no fan is hardcore enough to put money on very top tiers. The whole Robotech franchise lacks substance to me. When Harmony Gold's acts like they own Macross even though they don't actually own it, karma is going against them. When they run the business with such deceit, the outcome is never pretty. Other than putting Macross on American TV's, they wasted resource on establishing short-sighted storyline and blocked Macross sequels in favor of disjointed Robotech nonsense.
I don't know...Voltron remake got 8 seasons on Netflix, so it's doing alright, i guess? I think Voltron lucked out on remake because the originals weren't tied down to continuity storyline (Robotech generation nonsense) that links 3 different shows). There is no post TV storyline (novels) unlike Robotech. So I think the remake creators got more freedom to come up with new story without pegged down by established story from novels. |
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Beatdigga
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It’s only 8 seasons if you count the six episodes or so in half of them as seasons. They had a 76 episode guaranteed run and not one more, which they burned off.
And that’s 76 more than we’ll ever see out of Robotech. |
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Cardcaptor Takato
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Crispy45
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I don't think it's as good as people would like to think it is. There's no doubt a reason why Shout Factory isn't allowed to release any kind of semi-recent sentai series on home video. No doubt Hasbro has a very clear "don't release anything made in the last 15 years that could compete with any of our recent Power Rangers stuff" clause in their contract. Which means we'll be getting a release of the current Ryusoulger series around 2035. |
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reanimator
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I cannot remember how many episodes are in Robotech sequel episodes supposed to be. I do remember reading skyrocketing Yen value affecting the sequel's production cost according to Robotech Art 3 book. BTW, I rather read Macross Ace from Kadokawa than janky looking Robotech comics from Titan. |
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enurtsol
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How much money that Tatsunoko Production agreed to this?
Harmony Gold couldn't have had that much money. Somebody else could've likely outbid them if Tatsunoko Production had shopped around. |
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reanimator
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Maybe Harmony Gold has a secret stash somewhere? LOL Joke aside, Harmony Gold makes money off from real estate, B-grade movies, and other venues so it's not surprising for them to have some money laying around to renew the deal. Even if local anime publisher or broadcaster licensed Macross from Tatsunoko, the how much royalties can they provide in long term? It seem like Harmony Gold has good track record on providing steady royalty to Tatsunoko for decades and with some Hollywood connection. Probably Tatsunoko felt safer to have HG than some anime publisher. I think the answer lies on this:
animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-09-14/harmony-gold-macross-mospeada-southern-cross-licenses-still-expire-in-2021/.121372 Basically Tatsunoko got screwed over by litigation that favors Harmony Gold. Tatsunoko doesn't seem to have money to deal with legal fees, so it made a devil's deal with Harmony Gold to offset the cost. |
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falseinfinity
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Among other things, Harmony Gold owns owns a theater which has been used for some of the recent Director's Guild interview podcasts. (HG is mentioned at around the 1:10 mark in each podcast)
Examples: https://www.dga.org/Events/2019/June2019/AvengersEG_QnA_0519.aspx https://www.dga.org/Events/2019/Oct2019/Tarantino_OnceUponATimeInHollywood_QnA_0919.aspx |
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