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walw6pK4Alo
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 Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:29 pm
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| FireChick wrote: |
| Quote: | | Do you guys A - think it would work on TV today? B - think that Section 23 would financially be capable of doings this? |
I don't really know, but I think it'd be a great idea to give the show some exposure on Toonami, if given the right amount of advertising and marketing. People are always up for a good adventure, so I don't see why it wouldn't do well on American TV (though I don't think people will tolerate Nadia the character). |
It's too old and too four-by-three for Toonami, unless they ran a cropped BD version, and I doubt they'd want to spend at least $234,000 to redub it.
Anyway, great license rescue and I'm glad to see it'll be on BluRay. Unlike V guy, I advise you to not skip a single episode of the series, even the horrible Africa episodes. Why? Because even in those subpar filler episodes, there's still a little to enjoy here and there, even if it's making fun of the lack of budget and quality checking. If you ever rewatch the series, you can excise those from your viewing, but not the first time.
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Hitokiri Kenshin
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:35 pm
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The only one I never saw was the motion picture that was included with ADV's sets that takes place after the action and before the last episode's epilogue. Heard Gainax didn't do that one, and a friend of mine said it's stupid and can be/should be skipped.
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Mohawk52
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:39 pm
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| Hitokiri Kenshin wrote: | | The only one I never saw was the motion picture that was included with ADV's sets that takes place after the action and before the last episode's epilogue. Heard Gainax didn't do that one, and a friend of mine said it's stupid and can be/should be skipped. |
He's not half wrong there. I bought it to complete the series, but it was quite a lack luster cash cow.
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whoisfriend
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:47 pm
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| Hitokiri Kenshin wrote: | | The only one I never saw was the motion picture that was included with ADV's sets that takes place after the action and before the last episode's epilogue. Heard Gainax didn't do that one, and a friend of mine said it's stupid and can be/should be skipped. |
It's really, REALLY bad. It's half recap and half side story that makes the island episodes look like a masterpiece.
I own the tin box that ADV put out, and the movie is conspicuously missing.
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enurtsol
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:20 pm
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Hopefully it does have both dubs. Have them on separate videos, but it'd be easier to be together.
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Another big point is that the entire third and final season is nothing but a filler arc, which even Gainax advises people to skip
That's not to say you should "stop" at the end of Season 2 - basically they took what was *going* to be the season 2 finale, pushed it to the end of season 3, then invented about 20 filler episodes to space it out in between. They suffered from both poor writing and poor animation quality as a result. But hey, on the other hand, they're "bonus episodes" of a sort. But not relevant to the main plot. |
Gainax hated HATED working for NHK doing Nadia. NHK hired Gainax, but by the middle of it, they weren't seeing eye-to-eye. By then, whenever Gainax received "recommendation" papers from NHK about how to do the series, the first thing they'd do was throw it in the trash. IIRC it's supposed to be a 26-ep series, but NHK wanted to extend it, ergo the fillers. Doing Nadia wasn't one of the happier times for Gainax.
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| Quote: | | Do you guys A - think it would work on TV today? B - think that Section 23 would financially be capable of doings this? |
I don't really know, but I think it'd be a great idea to give the show some exposure on Toonami, if given the right amount of advertising and marketing. People are always up for a good adventure, so I don't see why it wouldn't do well on American TV (though I don't think people will tolerate Nadia the character). |
After ratings disasters, Williams Street found out that viewers don't tolerate much older-looking animation, so I doubt Toonami would be interested.
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From what I've heard, the Streamline dub didn't finish the entire series. Heard some clips from it though. Nadia sounds kinda like Suu with a French accent and Marie, sounds exactly like Angelica. |
Yep, Streamline dub didn't finish, and yep sounds French. The ADV dub, BTW, used real kids to voice Nadia and Jean (IIRC ages 13 and 12 when they dubbed it).
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However if it goes to Toonami they will either air it after midnight, or edit it like they did Tenchi Muyo OVA 1.  |
In America, Toonami only airs at night now. And they don't censor much anymore, save for nudity wherein they simply blurred the bits on Tenchi Muyo GXP. Williams Street doesn't have the time nor resources to do "digi-kini" anymore like they did Tenchi Muyo OVA. Heck, they actually leave it to the localizing companies to do the blurring.
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| Hitokiri Kenshin wrote: | | The only one I never saw was the motion picture that was included with ADV's sets that takes place after the action and before the last episode's epilogue. Heard Gainax didn't do that one, and a friend of mine said it's stupid and can be/should be skipped. |
He's not half wrong there. I bought it to complete the series, but it was quite a lack luster cash cow. |
And the ending? 
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Tenchi
Joined: 03 Jan 2002
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Location: Ottawa... now I'm an ex-Anglo Montrealer.
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 4:26 pm
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It would be nice if Sentai did the same 19-episode sets as the ADV re-release simply because I have the first set but never got around to getting the second.
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Mohawk52
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:28 pm
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| enurtsol wrote: |
And the ending? |
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FireChick
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:50 pm
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| Quote: | | After ratings disasters, Williams Street found out that viewers don't tolerate much older-looking animation, so I doubt Toonami would be interested. |
Really? If they don't like older-looking animation, then how does one explain Cowboy Bebop and FLCL getting reran to death?
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SpacemanHardy
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 5:53 pm
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I picked up ADV's two season sets from RightStuf a few years ago when they were selling them for 15 dollars each. It's a nice show for sure, but I'm not exactly sure I'm willing to double dip. I did hear the Japanese blurays look very nice, though. Perhaps if Sentai goes back and adds the Streamline dub as a bonus extra, that'll make me consider it.
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Echo_City
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:00 pm
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I'm not holding my breath for this one as my experience with GAINAX has been pretty disappointing. Perhaps they were a different company before EVA, capable of producing shows that didn't "drop the ball" partway through or shows that properly realized their intriguing premise, but I'm not willing to bet on it.
Out of all the GAINAX stuff that I've seen, the show to which I'd have to award the title of "overall best" would be Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi. I think that sums it up.
IMO this "big rescue" of Sentai's is only marginally more exciting than their rescue of Gatchaman, which was a big ole zero on the excitement scale.
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yuetheguardian
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:22 pm
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| Echo_City wrote: | | I'm not holding my breath for this one as my experience with GAINAX has been pretty disappointing. Perhaps they were a different company before EVA, capable of producing shows that didn't "drop the ball" partway through or shows that properly realized their intriguing premise, but I'm not willing to bet on it.
Out of all the GAINAX stuff that I've seen, the show to which I'd have to award the title of "overall best" would be Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi. I think that sums it up.
IMO this "big rescue" of Sentai's is only marginally more exciting than their rescue of Gatchaman, which was a big ole zero on the excitement scale. |
i cannot wait for the nadia set and i am one of those fan who actually went out and preordered gatchaman and have not been proven wrong for making that choice it is one of the best anime bluray sets i have seen.,
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firedragon54738
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:29 pm
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Sweet but me cash flows are low
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KoujiTamino
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:41 pm
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| FireChick wrote: |
| Quote: | | After ratings disasters, Williams Street found out that viewers don't tolerate much older-looking animation, so I doubt Toonami would be interested. |
Really? If they don't like older-looking animation, then how does one explain Cowboy Bebop and FLCL getting reran to death? |
Neither show is as old as Nadia and both look much better both in staying on-model and animation quality. That and bias.
I love Nadia, but man could that show look ugly at times.
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Dark Absol
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:51 pm
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I hope Sentai don't crop Nania up on Blu-Rays just like Funi did with their DBZ on Blu-Rays.
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Cptn_Taylor
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Posted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 7:04 pm
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| Hitokiri Kenshin wrote: | | The only one I never saw was the motion picture that was included with ADV's sets that takes place after the action and before the last episode's epilogue. Heard Gainax didn't do that one, and a friend of mine said it's stupid and can be/should be skipped. |
Well you sure as hell got the short end of the stick.
That OVA better be forgotten. It really has nothing to do with The Secret of Blue Water. As idiosyncratic as it might seem to a modern anime audience, Nadia is one of those series that has a well thought out and definitive ending at episode 39. The OVA was a simple cash grab with no additional value whatsoever.
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